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(Money/Entrepreneurship) I don't really know what to do...

Cheeky_James

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He does have skills - in fact their quite marketable. Hence, why he shouldn't just start over with the trades


None of these paths are viable for him. The state of Delaware requires a TON of hours as an apprentice before he even certifies as a journeyman.

And you know what the payrate is for those 3 years before he reaches professional level? $31k
Do you know what he'd be making once he makes journeyman? $41k

Before there's a mention about guys making six figures doing plumbing, this is in fact, rare. The guys making $200k have their own business which took years to even get to that point. And if they don't have a business, they're working an insane amount of overtime.

The trades are a respectable career but the timeline doesn't make any sense.

Also, how did education get plugged into this? Why would he go back to school when the whole point is keeping the lights on (no pun intended)?
oh true. I misunderstood your previous reply and advice then if education was not the other path you were advising him (I didn’t read all your posts here)

and what’s a summary of his skills?
I didn’t pick up form his OP..

also I am in Australia.
So there is obvs a cultural differences as in Australia .. tradies make rediculous bank. $2000-$3000 per week is the norm.

it’s a unionised racket here.

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And my own personal bias towards that career path I guess coming into play also. I would love to know how to build a house and have built my own (or had a big part in doing) before I kick the bucket some day…

Oh, plus lastly.. I never been to Delaware :rofl:
Only west coast and Vermont (strangely) .. so yeah I’m prob clueless really re US job market .
And shouldn’t really be getting involved.

lol
 
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^^Agree. I vote for Walmart. There is no shame in that, Walmart is an excellent organization, pays well with great benefits!

I have a friend who works there as a Pharmacist and loves it! Course being a Pharmacist takes many years of schooling but right now in the store she works in, there are many opportunities.

Currently there is a job opening for a Technician/HVAC and they train! Pay is up to $54 per hour! Check your area.

An ex-boyfriend left his job as a VP for a national financial institution, got trained as a Building Engineer/HVAC and now several years later owns his own successful business!

Also, I am curious. You stated one reason you stopped your coaching gig was because it was hurting opportunities with women.

Have your opportunities improved? How do women react when learning you live at home, no job and little motivation to do anything about it?

Is the woman you're currently seeing (LR 117) okay with that? Assuming you're still seeing her, you haven't updated.

Aa a woman I have A LOT of respect for men who will take a minimal job like Trader Joe's as @BaronOfHair suggested to get by, move out of parents' home even if it means renting a small room until he can save enough to get a better apt and find a better job. .

We do whatever is necessary, that is what I was taught and have done myself.

Best,
If we’re mentioning good jobs I want to plug Amazon Sortation center. Flexible schedules, good pay, not super strenuous. I’m mentioning it because it helped me bring something in and not shred savings after I was laid off, before rehire.
 

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oh true. I misunderstood your previous reply and advice then if education was not the other path you were advising him (I didn’t read all your posts here)

and what’s a summary of his skills?
I didn’t pick up form his OP..

also I am in Australia.
So there is obvs a cultural differences as in Australia .. tradies make rediculous bank. $2000-$3000 per week is the norm.

it’s a unionised racket here.

edit:
And my own personal bias towards that career path I guess coming into play also. I would love to know how to build a house and have built my own (or had a big part in doing) before I kick the bucket some day…

Oh, plus lastly.. I never been to Delaware :rofl:
Only west coast and Vermont (strangely) .. so yeah I’m prob clueless really re US job market .
And shouldn’t really be getting involved.

lol
oh true. I misunderstood your previous reply and advice then if education was not the other path you were advising him (I didn’t read all your posts here)

and what’s a summary of his skills?
I didn’t pick up form his OP..

also I am in Australia.
So there is obvs a cultural differences as in Australia .. tradies make rediculous bank. $2000-$3000 per week is the norm.

it’s a unionised racket here.

edit:
And my own personal bias towards that career path I guess coming into play also. I would love to know how to build a house and have built my own (or had a big part in doing) before I kick the bucket some day…

Oh, plus lastly.. I never been to Delaware :rofl:
Only west coast and Vermont (strangely) .. so yeah I’m prob clueless really re US job market .
And shouldn’t really be getting involved.

lol
Ah that makes a lot sense. If trades is that amount in Australia, then yesh, that'd be more viable than here. Is the apprenticeship program very similar to what we have in the states?
 

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I appreciate you holding me in such high regard.

I've been delivering my service through weekly check-in calls, dedicated channels with individualized assignments, workout routines, and audits (looks, clothes, etc). And that process DID work, very quickly, as a matter of fact, as evidenced by @nicksaiz65 success and my high-ticket client Ben, who lurks on this forum.

Performing this service in person, the way you describe, is something that I'd love to be able to do, but it doesn't make sense financially for me.

Think about how much you would be willing to pay someone like me for an immersion weekend. Maybe $1,000 - $3,000?
  • Flight - Depending on where I'm flying, it would cost about $500 round trip
  • Hotel - Average hotel price in the USA is $150/night, so that's another $300 if I were to do this for 2 nights
  • Car - Average rental car price per day is about $50, so that would be another $100
  • Festivities - Bars and clubs are where it would be easiest to teach approaching and closing, so when you factor in the cost of Ubers, perhaps cover charges, drinks, etc., that would probably be at least $100/night, so at least another $200 total
Beyond that, if I'm flying to your town, I have to do a LOT of legwork to find out where the spots are to go out and meet women - since I'm assuming that whoever I'm helping likely doesn't already know that information if they need my help meeting women. Plus, if you're paying all this money for my time and expertise, you probably don't want certain things included in that price: perhaps not having to wait in line, not having to pay for your Uber to the bar with me, and not having to pay for your/my drinks.

Now...if I charged enough and kept my costs low enough, this is a model that COULD be profitable, so I'm not saying it CAN'T work. What I am saying is that if people outside of the forum don't know me, or trust me - at least not the way those on THIS forum do - how can I expect them to spend thousands of dollars on me?

Remember, in just over a year, I was only able to build my Instagram to a little over 400 followers. I can't use certain messaging because, for example, I was suspended from Stripe due to selling "sexual services" as they deemed it, which extends to difficulties when it comes to advertising. Approaching and recording women is likely to get my accounts suspended or outright banned. And even if a strategy "works" when it comes to approaching women, the comments people are reading are from Karens and white knights calling me disgusting, saying what "really works", or labeling me a misogynist.

There are a LOT of problems I had to overcome without being paid, and even then, most people would rather spend their money on a dating profile makeover or a texting script.

Like I'd said before, I haven't gone and deleted everything, but it was damaging my personal relationships, costing me money, and I wasn't getting paid.

Know what, let's ask @nicksaiz65 . How much would you have been willing to spend if, instead of what we did online, I'd spent a weekend with you, approaching and providing advice?
My boss's boss is a very rich guy in his late 40s and just got back from some expensive business conference about entrepreneurship. One of their big emphasis points was that AI can make fake people to sell your products, so you don't have to pay real people. Think about how much easier it would be to promote content saying the same things you are already saying, but through what looks like a woman. And then tailor that fake woman to your target market. If your content is dating for old guys, then she has a few gray hairs. Your message is ok, but it's not getting anywhere with you being the one to promote it. You can use AI to create the messenger that people want to see.
 
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