"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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(Money/Entrepreneurship) I don't really know what to do...

Cheeky_James

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He does have skills - in fact their quite marketable. Hence, why he shouldn't just start over with the trades


None of these paths are viable for him. The state of Delaware requires a TON of hours as an apprentice before he even certifies as a journeyman.

And you know what the payrate is for those 3 years before he reaches professional level? $31k
Do you know what he'd be making once he makes journeyman? $41k

Before there's a mention about guys making six figures doing plumbing, this is in fact, rare. The guys making $200k have their own business which took years to even get to that point. And if they don't have a business, they're working an insane amount of overtime.

The trades are a respectable career but the timeline doesn't make any sense.

Also, how did education get plugged into this? Why would he go back to school when the whole point is keeping the lights on (no pun intended)?
oh true. I misunderstood your previous reply and advice then if education was not the other path you were advising him (I didn’t read all your posts here)

and what’s a summary of his skills?
I didn’t pick up form his OP..

also I am in Australia.
So there is obvs a cultural differences as in Australia .. tradies make rediculous bank. $2000-$3000 per week is the norm.

it’s a unionised racket here.

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And my own personal bias towards that career path I guess coming into play also. I would love to know how to build a house and have built my own (or had a big part in doing) before I kick the bucket some day…

Oh, plus lastly.. I never been to Delaware :rofl:
Only west coast and Vermont (strangely) .. so yeah I’m prob clueless really re US job market .
And shouldn’t really be getting involved.

lol
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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nicksaiz65

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^^Agree. I vote for Walmart. There is no shame in that, Walmart is an excellent organization, pays well with great benefits!

I have a friend who works there as a Pharmacist and loves it! Course being a Pharmacist takes many years of schooling but right now in the store she works in, there are many opportunities.

Currently there is a job opening for a Technician/HVAC and they train! Pay is up to $54 per hour! Check your area.

An ex-boyfriend left his job as a VP for a national financial institution, got trained as a Building Engineer/HVAC and now several years later owns his own successful business!

Also, I am curious. You stated one reason you stopped your coaching gig was because it was hurting opportunities with women.

Have your opportunities improved? How do women react when learning you live at home, no job and little motivation to do anything about it?

Is the woman you're currently seeing (LR 117) okay with that? Assuming you're still seeing her, you haven't updated.

Aa a woman I have A LOT of respect for men who will take a minimal job like Trader Joe's as @BaronOfHair suggested to get by, move out of parents' home even if it means renting a small room until he can save enough to get a better apt and find a better job. .

We do whatever is necessary, that is what I was taught and have done myself.

Best,
If we’re mentioning good jobs I want to plug Amazon Sortation center. Flexible schedules, good pay, not super strenuous. I’m mentioning it because it helped me bring something in and not shred savings after I was laid off, before rehire.
 

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oh true. I misunderstood your previous reply and advice then if education was not the other path you were advising him (I didn’t read all your posts here)

and what’s a summary of his skills?
I didn’t pick up form his OP..

also I am in Australia.
So there is obvs a cultural differences as in Australia .. tradies make rediculous bank. $2000-$3000 per week is the norm.

it’s a unionised racket here.

edit:
And my own personal bias towards that career path I guess coming into play also. I would love to know how to build a house and have built my own (or had a big part in doing) before I kick the bucket some day…

Oh, plus lastly.. I never been to Delaware :rofl:
Only west coast and Vermont (strangely) .. so yeah I’m prob clueless really re US job market .
And shouldn’t really be getting involved.

lol
oh true. I misunderstood your previous reply and advice then if education was not the other path you were advising him (I didn’t read all your posts here)

and what’s a summary of his skills?
I didn’t pick up form his OP..

also I am in Australia.
So there is obvs a cultural differences as in Australia .. tradies make rediculous bank. $2000-$3000 per week is the norm.

it’s a unionised racket here.

edit:
And my own personal bias towards that career path I guess coming into play also. I would love to know how to build a house and have built my own (or had a big part in doing) before I kick the bucket some day…

Oh, plus lastly.. I never been to Delaware :rofl:
Only west coast and Vermont (strangely) .. so yeah I’m prob clueless really re US job market .
And shouldn’t really be getting involved.

lol
Ah that makes a lot sense. If trades is that amount in Australia, then yesh, that'd be more viable than here. Is the apprenticeship program very similar to what we have in the states?
 
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