"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Mods, Clean This Place Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harp

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Look at this place!

LOOK!

I think I've said enough. I wanted to give a friend of mine this website but I didn't. You know why?

I'll tell you why. Because it would have done him more harm then good. This place is filled with.....okay, I don't even need to say it because I'm sure you have eyes.

IT WOULD HAVE DONE HIM MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

CLEAN THIS PLACE UP ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE SITE!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Mr_rogers

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Harp said:
Look at this place!

LOOK!

I think I've said enough. I wanted to give a friend of mine this website but I didn't. You know why?

I'll tell you why. Because it would have done him more harm then good. This place is filled with.....okay, I don't even need to say it because I'm sure you have eyes.

IT WOULD HAVE DONE HIM MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

CLEAN THIS PLACE UP ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE SITE!
Thought I do agree that this place isn't anywhere near as helpful as it should be, posting a demand for the mods to do something probably isn't a great way to get it done. I'm sure that the mods are well aware of how far this place has fallen, and I'm sure they're trying to figure out what to do about it.

I think patience is the key for now.
 

B-Lemond

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This place is going :down:

One of our top members (Jariel) has decided to leave due to the very FACT that this place is becoming infested with garbage!
 

Blackdragon5095

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I plan on leaving soon too. Our greatest Dj's have left. This fourm isn't about self-improvement now it's about proving something or bragging.

I'm trying to get some djs to go to the wsa site or get screen names. ( for aim , yahoo or msn )

I think guys will be better off in the field then on here. Make sure you take the dj bible before you leave. :cool:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LikRetsam

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Heh. Never been a forum mod eh?
 

TheVirtualMind

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LikRetsam said:
Heh. Never been a forum mod eh?
Amen. If only they knew...

I'm guessing people are failing to notice that Vincent is on vacation and I'm pulling extra hours at work right now, so the "HS overhaul" is on hold for a little bit. But don't worry. By the start of August, this place will have glory!

Or, you know, a bunch of pissed off people who are getting threads closed due to them being redundant, whichever.
 

B-Lemond

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Blackdragon5095 said:
I plan on leaving soon too.

Right on bro. I know what you mean.

I just found another place for me. Somewhere that'll be more beneficial to me. I don't know when, but I can see it coming.

I made it a goal, previously, that I would leave before getting 1,000 posts. I didn't think it would happen, but now I am slowly seeing it become reality.

My days here will vanish...
 

Blackdragon5095

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I don't really want 1,000 posts ethier, or be a mod. I want to be a real man and apply what I have learned. This website is just for getting women and thats about it.

I agree with you B-Lemond, finding another website like this would be better.
 

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Ya! Cuz I'm new and I don't need to be seeing this garbage! It's a bad influence!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheVirtualMind

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Point Blank said:
Ya! Cuz I'm new and I don't need to be seeing this garbage! It's a bad influence!
Um, ok Arisnel. You are almost as bad as dreamx...
 

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Something I've noticed is that half the people don't even read the rules. I see plenty of people posting about stuff that you can easily find if you search, or read the DJ Bible.
 

dannowillbookem

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what are alternative forums? i hate to be disloyal but i wanna widen my horizons and see if this place really is going bad

any alt forum suggestions?
 

Skilla_Staz

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What we REALLY need, is to have some way to force people to read some rules and accept them before posting on the forum. After so many violations, have their account deleted. I'm sure it would take a lot more effort to put into action, but it's a good idea in my opinion.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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MikeViper

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Yes, perhaps we need to have a quiz, or something on the rules, that you HAVE to take before you join, that way we can insure people have actually read the rules.
 

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Taken some time off with work, exams, girls etc... but im back... Place looks exactly the same as when i left (just after dreamx got booted...)

So whats new?
 

Mr_rogers

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Muphaser said:
Taken some time off with work, exams, girls etc... but im back... Place looks exactly the same as when i left (just after dreamx got booted...)

So whats new?
4/5ths of f**k all, my friend.
 

theapprentice

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what?

I think all of you who are complaining like to feel like you dont belong in the category who post "garbage." People who are new, who have JUST read the bible or dont understand it or who have certain insecurities or problems that you might not have had are now garbage? Is that what your saying?

This board is not organized very well thats it. First off all there should be a new section created just for the "mental game" area. Everything we do starts in our head. ALOT of people here have issues with anxiety and nervousness and we are all trying to learn how to do that. Its not that you "playa's" are so good with techniques that you get girls. Its just that you keep trying until a girl likes you. Each girl is so diffrent that its just a matter of time you find a girl who likes enough things about you, and if you make an effort to change yourself that she will like you back. C&F is also mental, thats why there are no Field Reports because you have to teach people how to overcome fear first. C&F cant be taught, so you cant sit and make posts about good C&f lines, thats retarted. It has to come from the person, when he is relaxed and confident. Dont talk about all the alpha male Bullsh*t that you throw around each other like a trophy phrase it DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE because its been abused by so many people, it has no concrete meaning anymore in the seduction society. I bet most of the people here are not alpha males at all, leave this board if you are, and if you stay to help other people than thank you.

Never consider other peoples questions as garbage, what if your question was treated in such a manor.

The reason this board has come to shambles is that there is no regulation on who can ANSWER questions and who can ASK questions. Newbies and people not certified should not be allowed to answer other newbie's posts. Im sure the webmaster can create a list of about 30 or more experienced players who are qualified to answer people's questions. These 30 or how ever many that can be considered qualified by reading their Field reports, and answers to various questions.

You will see a tremendous load of people leave this site, and since there is no advertising done here, that wont be a bad thing. The qualified individuals can answer questiosn which are important.

To make it a little broader, you could let newbies post but the qualified guys could read the newbies post and leave it there if it is good advice or delete it and give a reasoning if its bad advice.

How do you expect a organized self sustaining website to grow when everyone can go around answering each other's questions, and nobody knows what the truth is and isnt.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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