"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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:crazy: I'm guessing she hasn't made it yet and is going to college as back-up. Checked out her facebook and of course, guys are all over. She sits right next to me in class and is the most attractive girl in the class, if not, the whole school.

If she was going to HS with me, I'd probably be all nervous. Now. Not so much. Although I notice that she's attractive, I'm too absorbed in my schoolwork to really want to get to know her. I just like looking at her from time to time. She has nice legs.

For some reason, maybe b/c I'm not paying attention but am cordial, she tries to talk to me every class. I just give her short answers. While she's talking to me, I hardly respond or look at her. I'm usually busy studying.

Just today, the girl was waiting for me outside. When I saw her, I thought about going that way so she could intercept me just out of curiousity, but another girl from class came up to me instead. We're in the same major. So I naturally speak to her.

I wish I was like this in HS, when I had more time to date around. :cry:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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CarlitosWay

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I'd one day ask her about a problem you have with a girl. Make up some stuff that could get her visualizing some naughty stuff. See how she reacts. Could work.......and be enough to initiate that interest you want.
 

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you don't need a "reason" to talk to anyone, a simple "hey where'd you go to high school? you dont look familiar"

work on basic conversational skills, dont try and "seduce" her at this point, just be casual and friendly, become one the guys she thinks is "cool" you dont want to ever really "seduce" a girl right off the bat of meeting them, unless you going for same night lay, because you wont see her again.

as of now build rapport and familiarity with her, avoid taking advice of getting her into sexual states, for now.
 

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the305 said:
you don't need a "reason" to talk to anyone, a simple "hey where'd you go to high school? you dont look familiar"

work on basic conversational skills, dont try and "seduce" her at this point, just be casual and friendly, become one the guys she thinks is "cool" you dont want to ever really "seduce" a girl right off the bat of meeting them, unless you going for same night lay, because you wont see her again.

as of now build rapport and familiarity with her, avoid taking advice of getting her into sexual states, for now.
LOL... yeah can't forget building some nice rapport. Ok I get a little ahead of myself at times. ...hmm no wonder I get called a man *****/bad boy right off the bat.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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xectxny19x said:
:She sits right next to me in class and is the most attractive girl in the class, if not, the whole school.

. :cry:
Pedestal!!!! Careful dude!!!

Personally I need girls to be attractive inside and out or else I can't do anything. If the girls pretty dumb to me well, attraction killed.

Anyway I won't dole out any advice cuz I'm still a novice, but yea I definitely noticed that you're on this girl's nuts from the OP, dial it down man or you could fall flat on your face.


Otherwise best of luck :up:
 

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the305 said:
as of now build rapport and familiarity with her, avoid taking advice of getting her into sexual states, for now.

this is the third time ive seen you put up this crappy advice. being in a sexual state from the start is what keeps you out of the friend zone. i agree, be casual, but at the same time, ALL your conversations with women should have flirty sexual undertones, especially if you're interested. the only reason that wouldnt work for someone is if their confidence was piss poor and didnt believe themself to be worthy of sex with the girl, and/or they were strikingly ugly. even then, your ability to excite her sexual mind may be your saving grace.
 

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this is the third time ive seen you put up this crappy advice. being in a sexual state from the start is what keeps you out of the friend zone. i agree, be casual, but at the same time, ALL your conversations with women should have flirty sexual undertones, especially if you're interested. the only reason that wouldnt work for someone is if their confidence was piss poor and didnt believe themself to be worthy of sex with the girl, and/or they were strikingly ugly. even then, your ability to excite her sexual mind may be your saving grace.
common misconception with guys just starting out in the community.. so I don't blame you for thinking like that, as I did, for YEARS.

I will make a post about it, shedding some light.
 

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the305 said:
common misconception with guys just starting out in the community.. so I don't blame you for thinking like that, as I did, for YEARS.

I will make a post about it, shedding some light.
i wouldnt consider it a misconception. i mean, granted, im not the average dj. im about a 9 in looks, with the personality of a god, a great family life that i can call on to tell stories about to build comfort and just generally show that i really have deep substance. and im a little confident. ha.

but ive NEVER had issues with a girl responding badly to me being sexual. honestly, id love to discuss it with you, so ill wait till you make your thread rather than hijacking this one.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Regents halfback 22 said:
and being cool leads to... this model asking you out?
If you had any clue whatsoever you'd understand what playing it cool entails and the end-game of playing it cool :D

For guys who actually have some idea of what they're doing: if every lovable loser would do it, don't. Think outside the box--do you really believe the only way to get a girl into the sack is to "ask her out" on a "date" to which she says yes or no? If you believe that, you're gonna lose the game.

Lose the game.

The game.
 

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I'm not interested in the girl enough to pursue in any way. If this were in HS, I'd be all over it. But now, I'm actually more focused on my schoolwork more than this model. Makes me kind of sad, since she seriously has some nice legs. :cry:
 

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then do it while doing ur schoolwork. if it works, then u can use her to alleviate stress from schoolwork if not then more time for it.

but i think ur just making up excuses to not go for this girl. just do it u fool. do what comes natural. if u dont feel like talking then dont. dont force it, ul just sound like a dumbass. but dont make excuses in ur mind. quit crying.

cuz if u werent THAT interested... u wouldnt have posted this.
 

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xectxny19x said:
:crazy: I'm guessing she hasn't made it yet and is going to college as back-up. Checked out her facebook and of course, guys are all over. She sits right next to me in class and is the most attractive girl in the class, if not, the whole school.

If she was going to HS with me, I'd probably be all nervous. Now. Not so much. Although I notice that she's attractive, I'm too absorbed in my schoolwork to really want to get to know her. I just like looking at her from time to time. She has nice legs.

For some reason, maybe b/c I'm not paying attention but am cordial, she tries to talk to me every class. I just give her short answers. While she's talking to me, I hardly respond or look at her. I'm usually busy studying.

Just today, the girl was waiting for me outside. When I saw her, I thought about going that way so she could intercept me just out of curiousity, but another girl from class came up to me instead. We're in the same major. So I naturally speak to her.

I wish I was like this in HS, when I had more time to date around. :cry:
Zarky said:
nah, don't be like all the other douchebags who ask her out every single day. Play it cool.
Regents halfback 22 said:
and being cool leads to... this model asking you out?
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Zarky is correct. Here's why.

There are two situations - one is where you will only see her once, such as a club, library, party. In that situation, you MUST ask for her number right away.

The other situation is where you constantly are in the same venue as she is, i.e. a classroom setting. In this situation, you want to DHV to her but indirectly.

Ignore her and DHV through your interactions with other students, the professor, etc.

You will be able to tell if you have piqued her interest - this may take some time. But it should be readily apparent when you have done so.

A beautiful girl is not used to high-value guys ignoring her and she will start to try to get your attention. This is when you slowly but surely interact with her and ask for her number.

Remember, with beautiful girls, you want to DHV first, otherwise you are lumped in with all the other losers who are trying to get with her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Aww, dude! You got this girl on a goddamn pedestal! Then you got it gold plated! What gets me is that this girls seems to show interest. And you're not acting. Talk to her, find a way to pique her interest, do something dammit!

You're found guilty of not acting/ making a move on a girl you fancy. The fine for it is worries that she's being banged by another guy and blue balls. There is also a trip to Loser, South Dakota.

Judge Nismo-4 is very disappointed in you. Read my sig. Remember it. Apply it. And stop shopping at Pedestals R' Us!

Case closed. Post a follow up when you make your move.
 

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Regents halfback 22 said:
whatever you say dude
Regents, I don't usually attack people online, but you're an idiot. You're 21 years old and have no experience. Time for you to keep your misguided opinions to yourself and start listening. I started speed seduction when I was your age, 14 years ago. If the OP asks the chick out at this point--unless she just happens to already be interested in him--then he's screwed. He's not increased her attraction to him or her comfort with him.
 

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Zarky: Age has nothing to do with being and i quote "good with women", Bootcamps.. Lair meetups.. ages range from 16 to 60 with them all having one common problem, not being as successful as they like to be with women.

Not sure why you are all fixated on the whole age thing, from your post to your signature.

P.S. I know people who have been in the "community" 4+ years and they STILL suck. like i said, its all relative homie.
 

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She isn't a model!! If she was a model she would be in high school still. Plus, 85% of models are coming from Eastern Europe or Southern Brazil these days. I suspect this is another boys story. At best she was a stripper.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Aww, dude! You got this girl on a goddamn pedestal! Then you got it gold plated! What gets me is that this girls seems to show interest. And you're not acting. Talk to her, find a way to pique her interest, do something dammit!

You're found guilty of not acting/ making a move on a girl you fancy. The fine for it is worries that she's being banged by another guy and blue balls. There is also a trip to Loser, South Dakota.

Judge Nismo-4 is very disappointed in you. Read my sig. Remember it. Apply it. And stop shopping at Pedestals R' Us!

Case closed. Post a follow up when you make your move.
Judge nismo keeps making me laugh with the sh*t he writes and his handling of cases!

But OP, you just need to make some kind of damn move before the nerd with The Legend of Zelda wallet does!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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