"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mixed signals - Women!

drellum

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Getting mixed up signals from a girl I've been seeing for a few weeks.
We are both relatively new out of LTR's....her's more messy than mine.

We seemed to be getting on fine and decided to go away together for a few days.
We had a good time while we were away. We talked about maybe doing future trips and other activities when we got home, things were looking positive.

Since we got back she seems quite distant and doesn't seem as though she wants to instigate communications.

What would be your reading of this? She hasn't said that she is not interested in taking it any further or whatever else she wants.

Either way, we've only been dating for a few weeks so no real bonds formed.
Just seems a bit strange.

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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When you went away did you sleep with her? If you didn't do the deed or even try to escalate she may be shutting down. If you didn't escalate she may feel rejected so she will put up a shield so she doesn't have to feel that rejection. The main defensive action of this shield is to shut you out thus rejecting you. At this point it may be done with. Best action is no action. Don't chase her. Don't ask her about it. Leave her for a week see if she starts up a convo then start again. Build more attraction and make sure you escalate.
 

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seethehoop said:
When you went away did you sleep with her? If you didn't do the deed or even try to escalate she may be shutting down. If you didn't escalate she may feel rejected so she will put up a shield so she doesn't have to feel that rejection. The main defensive action of this shield is to shut you out thus rejecting you. At this point it may be done with. Best action is no action. Don't chase her. Don't ask her about it. Leave her for a week see if she starts up a convo then start again. Build more attraction and make sure you escalate.

Thanks for the reply.

We had agreed in advance that we would wait for a while to sleep together (her request) So that was no surprise.

Yeah, I'm going to leave it now and see what happens.

Must admit, at this moment in time it feels dead.

Onwards and upwards!
 

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From what I can gather, when a women says she wants to wait she means she doesn't want to feel like she is easy. Best way to deal with that is to continue to escalate but demonstrate that you are trust worthy and won't go bragging about it being a conquest. I don't think you have done anything major jus make sure you act in the right manner moving forward.

Leave her a bit but when you do talk again find some way to show her you can keep her dignity intact, maybe tell her something about how you kept a secret safe. Also build some rapport with her, give her some emotional anchors to you. Read up on some pua telling then find some of your own. Weave in some anchors to pull her in by relating emotions she has told you about. If you want some examples let me know.
 

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good advice man - Thanks!

When you say an Anchor - do you mean something personal from me to her?
I did that before we left and it went down quite well!

I suspect that there maybe some emotional issues here that are not revealed re: her last relationship.

Is it possible she is reviewing the break and assessing the potential to move forward?

D
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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An emotional anchor would be giving her something she can relate to on an emotional level. Eg she tells you a childhood story about something dear to her, you then tell her something similar so that she can relate those same feelings to you.

You can then raise those emotional triggers which will spike her emotional response to you. use positive emotions first though, feelings such as excitement, euphoria, security etc.

She will then feel like you understand her when all you are really doing is relaying her own emotional triggers back to her.
 

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Mixed signals means little to no interest.

You just need to go ghost. And your princess is highly likely in another castle. And the attraction, beyond a reasonable doubt, is not there. I know that's not what you want to hear, but reality bites.

Moving on is the best thing that is for you. Judge nismo's ruling.

Case closed.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Mixed signals means little to no interest.

You just need to go ghost. And your princess is highly likely in another castle. And the attraction, beyond a reasonable doubt, is not there. I know that's not what you want to hear, but reality bites.

Moving on is the best thing that is for you. Judge nismo's ruling.

Case closed.

:-D haha. I think so too!

D
 

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drellum said:
We had agreed in advance that we would wait for a while to sleep together (her request) So that was no surprise.
Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When women make you wait for sex you are not their highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fukk you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck the sh!t out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first is the same girl who fukked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sluts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

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As it says, you don't negotiate when your going to phuck each other like its a vacation. This is a biological reaction when you feel attraction; its either there or it isn't there.

If she makes you wait, there is likely another guy in her line up ahead of you on the priority list.

Secondly, what are you thinking taking a weekend trip together after you JUST starting seeing this chick??

It looks like YOU think the trip went very well; while its pretty obvious by her actions (or inaction since the trip) that she didn't have that great of a time at all.)

As the others have said, completely shut her out for a bit and see what happens.

Don't make these rookie mistakes next time and DON'T agree to not sleep with a girl unless you want to be viewed as a girl.






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Pimp-sicle said:
Iron Rule of Tomassi #3
Secondly, what are you thinking taking a weekend trip together after you JUST starting seeing this chick??
SHE ASKED ME...I said yeah, why not.

Why was it an issue to go away so soon?

I pretty much go with the flow most of the time but wasn't contemplating an emotional can of worms
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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drellum said:
SHE ASKED ME...I said yeah, why not.

Why was it an issue to go away so soon?

I pretty much go with the flow most of the time but wasn't contemplating an emotional can of worms
So don't go with the flow, step up and lead. Be a man!

Sorry to be blunt.
 

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drellum said:
SHE ASKED ME...I said yeah, why not.

Why was it an issue to go away so soon?

I pretty much go with the flow most of the time but wasn't contemplating an emotional can of worms
Beta
 

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drellum said:
Should i have said no?
You could've countered, and suggested an alternative like a day at a theme park or smth.
Then you're in control, and you have fun and she has fun and you don't end up going away for a weekend so soon into the relationship.

Just a suggestion, but that's hindsight for you, concentrate on what you CAN do now.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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We had agreed in advance that we would wait for a while to sleep together (her request)

It was a test. You failed. That's why she lost interest. You're supposed to get so swept away by your feelings for her that you lose control and break the agreement by making passionate love to her. By female logic, that would mean she's not a slvt. I would guess that she got this idea from a book, movie, or tv show and she subjects every new guy to the same test.
 

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Even when a girl is about to dump you, they usually will have sex on the last date. If they don't you have SERIOUS problems.
 
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