"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mixed signals or sabotage??

styleman

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Ok so out of a messy break up, with a girl (girl A) for two years she was pushing for marriage and I was saying wait. It just didn't work out, we don't talk anymore.
So I went out, to spin more plates, and basically went clubbing with this girl (say, girl b) my ex hated me spending time with (she thought girl b had a thing for me). A few of that girl's friends were around and one of them really caught my eye (girl c). Actually she was the one to initiate conversation with me. We danced a little together spoke a bit, and really that was it, I actually didn't think too much of it at the time I was enjoying my drink, the music.
Girl B, knowing about the messy break-up with my ex asked me the next day did you like anyone last night, I mentioned girl c. Next thing girl c starts saying I'll set it up for you and gives me her blackberry messenger contact (I hadn't asked girl c for her number or anything the night before), I waited a day and added her the following day, got to talking with her. Conversation flowed well.
One massive failure I made was that I went into detail about my ex, she asked me things like 'do you regret not proposing' but I tried to cut it as short as possible.
So around a week later I call her for dinner, we go for drinks after and she comes back to my place also. So as far as I see it its going fvcking well.
I continue to talk to her on the phone but don't meet her until the following week as traveling and work.
Meanwhile I ask girl b, what does girl c think of me, she says oh she likes you but she doesn't think it can go anywhere.
I was quite shocked given that the first date went so well.
So last night was the second time I met girl c, and we went for dinner then drinks spent around 4-5 hours together, went well, made out.
She didn't come back to my place, she was fussing at first to meet me because she had an exam in the day and said she was tired, and she said 'oh you're always traveling so I wanted to see you but I'm so tired' so it does seem realistic, not just trying to brush me off.
I'm traveling again on Monday and she said she really wants to see me again before I go.
But... this morning I speak to her friend girl b, and I asked her about how girl c feels, she says oh she only sees you as a friend it can't go anywhere.
WTFFF??
I've asked another girl friend of mine (my very first girlfriend, now ex we still talk a lot), and she says girl b fancies you. I actually wouldn't find this so ridiculous because even my ex (girl A) hated me meeting girl b.
But seriously, the dates go well, girl C seems really happy to talk to me, but I'm getting these mixed signals from her friend and its really messing up my game and confidence!!
Help guys!!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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maqnetik

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your problem is simple:

youre basing YOUR OPINIONS on what women SAY about themselves and each other. basically youre conforming to their confusion and mirroring their flaky retarded f***ery rather than reacting to their actions accordingly. when they do what you like and you dont have any mixed messages or instinctive red flags you REWARD them with attention. thats their DRUG and you dont give it to them for FREE thus raising your VALUE by creating scarcity. once you have them HOOKED and TRAINED you taper off the attention and only dole it out intermittently-- and ONLY when theyve been a GOOD GIRL on a CONTINUOUS BASIS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOvq8FsiUE
 

Atom Smasher

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Styleman,

I absolutely refuse to read posts like yours where it looks like you loaded a shotgun with a can of alphabet soup and shot your monitor with it.

You're not getting a lot of responses because your post is too much work to read. Why make it so hard? Split your post into paragraphs with spaces between them and you'll have a lotl more guys willing to read it and maybe help you out.

I'm not the only one here who feels this way. Most people, when they see a mess like that, bypass the thread.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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