I do not even think that girls think of this as "lies and deceit". for a lot of them, this is the way they are, and we just have to realize that and be like "whatever". I would bet that she thinks she loves this guy.jophil28 said:
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Mixed signal (maybe) central with gf...
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hi OP,
My advice to you is to go out there and have some fun. I feel for you.
As for the cheating, I think other posters are over-reacting on that. I think it's safe to assume a girl has cheated one time or another (remember the foreign holiday she took with the girls?) and let's face it, we all make mistakes one time or another, so it's best to over look it if its not a regular occurrence.
Forget about NCing if that's too much trouble for you. Go out and have some fun with your mates and if you two talk again mention your fun time in a backhanded way. That should do her.
My advice to you is to go out there and have some fun. I feel for you.
As for the cheating, I think other posters are over-reacting on that. I think it's safe to assume a girl has cheated one time or another (remember the foreign holiday she took with the girls?) and let's face it, we all make mistakes one time or another, so it's best to over look it if its not a regular occurrence.
Forget about NCing if that's too much trouble for you. Go out and have some fun with your mates and if you two talk again mention your fun time in a backhanded way. That should do her.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
Please OP, disregard ANY OF THIS except the part where he says:BritBoy said:
"Hi OP,
My advice to you is to go out there and have some fun".
And I'm sure the LAST thing you want to be with your ex g/f is FRIENDS.
You want NO contact, NO CONTACT, NO EGGING CONTACT.
NONE.
She's texting you endlessly because she's losing the frame and she knows it. Did you notice her last text???
"4hrs later..she says "I still think we will be ok, I love you.""
This was her telling YOU what she is internalizing right now. She thinks that you will be okay is her way of saying: I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK TO ME. YOU ALWAYS DO.
For all that is holy, stop talking to this girl. Even stepping back into this thread makes me angry again.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Whether women are aware, or not, that their cheating and deceptive acts are atrocious is not so important . Their unwillingness or inability to accurately grasp and label their destructive behavior does not grant them license to continue to do so with immunity.brekke said:
What IS important is that WE men recognize poor behavior and walk away from women who practise it.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
I was intending to reply to this limp d!ck, but I figured that his AFC impotence speaks for itself.BritBoy said:
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
A little piece of me died reading your story. Wow, that is exactly how you should NOT act.
She cheated. C H E A T E D. Nothing is going to change that. Delete her number. don't contact her again. Move on.
She cheated. C H E A T E D. Nothing is going to change that. Delete her number. don't contact her again. Move on.
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
This is the truth!!!jophil28 said:
eaglez1177
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Wow. I can't believe chumps like this are attempting to give advice. Truly sad.BritBoy said:
I don't understand it, why don't you just use her for sex?
Minimal contact until she gets in touch then your primary goal is to pump her. Then NC. Repeat if needed.
Keep seeing other girls, and if she calls and asks, NO INFORMATION IS NEEDED to be given!!!
When a girl asks a question you are not obliged to answer it, in fact, they love it if you don't. It gets their juices flowing
Minimal contact until she gets in touch then your primary goal is to pump her. Then NC. Repeat if needed.
Keep seeing other girls, and if she calls and asks, NO INFORMATION IS NEEDED to be given!!!
When a girl asks a question you are not obliged to answer it, in fact, they love it if you don't. It gets their juices flowing
Well it's probably a bit insensitive considering the OP's situation but I am also more angry about her manipulating ways, and above all, the OP's bloody weakness, than her cheating!!! Was his weakness part of the reason she cheated? My guess is yes. So he probably needs to man upeaglez1177 said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
So there might be some hope for you after all! This is the first sensible thing you've said since you started this thread...Stymie123 said:
As far as you replying to her, remember that No Contact means exactly that: don't fvcking contact her! simply ignore her and any of her attempts at clawing her way back into your life.
Little update:
So I've been nc for a month (aside from some business matters between us).
Last night I went out with a new girl, had a nice night, went home to her place, fell asleep. We woke up this morning and kind of laid around. Before we were gonna go get breakfast, I just grabbed her pants and told her I wanted to rip her clothes off. She kind of laughed it off, but didn't seem to resist, so i just proceeded to take them off her and went to town.
When we were done, we went and got breakfast and then i left. The thing is she was acting weird after, maybe it was in my head, but she seemed really quiet.
No sooner do I get on the subway than I get a txt from the ex..."how have you been, I think about you everyday, and miss having you near me...love you."
So I've been nc for a month (aside from some business matters between us).
Last night I went out with a new girl, had a nice night, went home to her place, fell asleep. We woke up this morning and kind of laid around. Before we were gonna go get breakfast, I just grabbed her pants and told her I wanted to rip her clothes off. She kind of laughed it off, but didn't seem to resist, so i just proceeded to take them off her and went to town.
When we were done, we went and got breakfast and then i left. The thing is she was acting weird after, maybe it was in my head, but she seemed really quiet.
No sooner do I get on the subway than I get a txt from the ex..."how have you been, I think about you everyday, and miss having you near me...love you."