I do not even think that girls think of this as "lies and deceit". for a lot of them, this is the way they are, and we just have to realize that and be like "whatever". I would bet that she thinks she loves this guy.jophil28 said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Mixed signal (maybe) central with gf...
- Thread starter Stymie123
- Start date
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Hi OP,
My advice to you is to go out there and have some fun. I feel for you.
As for the cheating, I think other posters are over-reacting on that. I think it's safe to assume a girl has cheated one time or another (remember the foreign holiday she took with the girls?) and let's face it, we all make mistakes one time or another, so it's best to over look it if its not a regular occurrence.
Forget about NCing if that's too much trouble for you. Go out and have some fun with your mates and if you two talk again mention your fun time in a backhanded way. That should do her.
My advice to you is to go out there and have some fun. I feel for you.
As for the cheating, I think other posters are over-reacting on that. I think it's safe to assume a girl has cheated one time or another (remember the foreign holiday she took with the girls?) and let's face it, we all make mistakes one time or another, so it's best to over look it if its not a regular occurrence.
Forget about NCing if that's too much trouble for you. Go out and have some fun with your mates and if you two talk again mention your fun time in a backhanded way. That should do her.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
Please OP, disregard ANY OF THIS except the part where he says:BritBoy said:
"Hi OP,
My advice to you is to go out there and have some fun".
And I'm sure the LAST thing you want to be with your ex g/f is FRIENDS.
You want NO contact, NO CONTACT, NO EGGING CONTACT.
NONE.
She's texting you endlessly because she's losing the frame and she knows it. Did you notice her last text???
"4hrs later..she says "I still think we will be ok, I love you.""
This was her telling YOU what she is internalizing right now. She thinks that you will be okay is her way of saying: I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK TO ME. YOU ALWAYS DO.
For all that is holy, stop talking to this girl. Even stepping back into this thread makes me angry again.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
Whether women are aware, or not, that their cheating and deceptive acts are atrocious is not so important . Their unwillingness or inability to accurately grasp and label their destructive behavior does not grant them license to continue to do so with immunity.brekke said:
What IS important is that WE men recognize poor behavior and walk away from women who practise it.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
I was intending to reply to this limp d!ck, but I figured that his AFC impotence speaks for itself.BritBoy said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
A little piece of me died reading your story. Wow, that is exactly how you should NOT act.
She cheated. C H E A T E D. Nothing is going to change that. Delete her number. don't contact her again. Move on.
She cheated. C H E A T E D. Nothing is going to change that. Delete her number. don't contact her again. Move on.
Centaurion
Master Don Juan
This is the truth!!!jophil28 said:
eaglez1177
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 24, 2008
- Messages
- 1,320
- Reaction score
- 21
Wow. I can't believe chumps like this are attempting to give advice. Truly sad.BritBoy said:
I don't understand it, why don't you just use her for sex?
Minimal contact until she gets in touch then your primary goal is to pump her. Then NC. Repeat if needed.
Keep seeing other girls, and if she calls and asks, NO INFORMATION IS NEEDED to be given!!!
When a girl asks a question you are not obliged to answer it, in fact, they love it if you don't. It gets their juices flowing
Minimal contact until she gets in touch then your primary goal is to pump her. Then NC. Repeat if needed.
Keep seeing other girls, and if she calls and asks, NO INFORMATION IS NEEDED to be given!!!
When a girl asks a question you are not obliged to answer it, in fact, they love it if you don't. It gets their juices flowing
Well it's probably a bit insensitive considering the OP's situation but I am also more angry about her manipulating ways, and above all, the OP's bloody weakness, than her cheating!!! Was his weakness part of the reason she cheated? My guess is yes. So he probably needs to man upeaglez1177 said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
So there might be some hope for you after all! This is the first sensible thing you've said since you started this thread...Stymie123 said:
As far as you replying to her, remember that No Contact means exactly that: don't fvcking contact her! simply ignore her and any of her attempts at clawing her way back into your life.
Little update:
So I've been nc for a month (aside from some business matters between us).
Last night I went out with a new girl, had a nice night, went home to her place, fell asleep. We woke up this morning and kind of laid around. Before we were gonna go get breakfast, I just grabbed her pants and told her I wanted to rip her clothes off. She kind of laughed it off, but didn't seem to resist, so i just proceeded to take them off her and went to town.
When we were done, we went and got breakfast and then i left. The thing is she was acting weird after, maybe it was in my head, but she seemed really quiet.
No sooner do I get on the subway than I get a txt from the ex..."how have you been, I think about you everyday, and miss having you near me...love you."
So I've been nc for a month (aside from some business matters between us).
Last night I went out with a new girl, had a nice night, went home to her place, fell asleep. We woke up this morning and kind of laid around. Before we were gonna go get breakfast, I just grabbed her pants and told her I wanted to rip her clothes off. She kind of laughed it off, but didn't seem to resist, so i just proceeded to take them off her and went to town.
When we were done, we went and got breakfast and then i left. The thing is she was acting weird after, maybe it was in my head, but she seemed really quiet.
No sooner do I get on the subway than I get a txt from the ex..."how have you been, I think about you everyday, and miss having you near me...love you."