"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Misogynistic viewpoints.

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ketostix said:
For most people, and all women, the standard definition of a misogynist=a guy who does not accept all of feminism's dogma and verbalizes any descention.

I thought a misogynist was someone who hates women
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ready123 said:
I thought a misogynist was someone who hates women
That is what it is, and that is the working definition as it is used here as well.

It isn't that hard to understand, and it isn't that big of a word or concept either. Keep it real.
 

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I thought a misogynist was someone who hates women
A typical modern liberated strong independent (anything else?) woman always calls a guy who criticizes her a misogynist, when the fact is that he probably just doesn't like her, but likes other women. :D
 

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Just an aside, there is plenty on this forum about buying flowers and writing love songs/poems/letters etc.

I'd like an answer to Rollo's question. Can the OP remember the first time he heard this term.

For myself it's been very interesting to wonder where some of the beliefs I had when I was forming my identity came from way back when. They were from "out there".

I think I shared the story once of being in sixth grade and giving this girl I had a huge crush on (never spoken to her before) a long love letter that probably scared the crap out of her. Now I don't remember where I got that idea. It was the "right thing to do". I must have seen it in a tv show, or maybe some classmates I knew had done the same thing. Not sure.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ready123 said:
when you get good at this stuff, you learn to appreciate why women have these wierd autopilot responses. you go from being frustrated to realizing all that behavior has a purpose. and once you understand it, it becomes amusing, not something to get pissed at
I agree with this. It's almost like you're watching a remake of a movie, you know what the next scene is but each girl plays it in a slightly different way.
 

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Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.
– H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
 

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Do misogynists sleep with women?
 

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Misogynistic as a word is a joke.

It is often used by feminists to describe ALL MEN who are not doctrine in the feminist movement or philosophy. It is also a word used to strip POWER away from a man.

A feminist will label a Don Juan a Misogynist simply due to the fact that he dates many women and thus has POWER over women. He stops being a Misogynist once he agrees to go into LTR with one woman and ultimately marries her . However he becomes a Misogynist once again if he doesn't agree to 50-50 power sharing in a relationship (and eventually allows the woman to take over). Its a lose-lose situation for a man. You are either labled a Misogynist or you don't have any power.

In conclusion you know you are not a Misogynist (in the eyes of feminists) when you are a CHUMP.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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When I was younger I knew what a misogynist was and dammit I let the girls know that I wasn't one. Of course if they had told me they preferred misogynists, who knows what would have happened.
 

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To answer Rollo's question, I used the dictionary.com definition:

hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women.

And if you really want to know where I first heard the word, I heard it when I was 15 and studying for the SAT with a vocabulary book.

I'm not saying that the men of SoSuave think that women should be in the kitchen pregnant and barefoot until they hit menopause. I'm saying that there's a lot of bitterness in the posts.
 

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Well if it includes mistrust, I'd say 99% of the guys here are misogynists, with you as the exception. That's an awfully general description.

Quick! What's the female version of this word?
 

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The point is challenge any female behavior and you are labeled a misogynist. Just because you dislike typical female behavior, or you see human nature for what it is, or you generalize female behavior, that does not mean you hate women or are bitter. Besides there's nothing wrong with being a misogynist anyway when females are out of their place and behaving poorly oftentimes. The only thing wrong with being a "misogynist" is if you verbalize it to a woman you are trying to attract. That won't work. But to even say it's wrong to be a "misogynist" here and among fellow guys is a little ridiculous and PC IMO.
 

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reset said:
Well if it includes mistrust, I'd say 99% of the guys here are misogynists, with you as the exception. That's an awfully general description.

Quick! What's the female version of this word?
Yeah really. Why don't we ask how many women on here are misandrogist or are on LS? Anytime you hear a female labeling someone a misogynist you can be pretty sure it's kettle calling the pot black.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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misandrogist--is that it? I've never heard that before. You can't really say feminist because that has a "positive" aspect to it (equal pay, whatever).

OP--did you just notice that word or was the word a part of one of your exercises?
 

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It's "misandry / misandrist" - the hatred of men.

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Well if it includes mistrust, I'd say 99% of the guys here are misogynists, with you as the exception. That's an awfully general description.
And that includes most women, too. Generally, men trust women way more than women trust other women.
 

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lots of hallucinations in this post. The OP only used the word to describe MOST of what is on whymenarebetterthanwomen.com or whatever the sight is. His only point was that there is a lot of bitterness on this sight towords women, which he reiterated above, and that there are lot of good women out there. You are allowed to say NEXT to a girl if you don't like her, you know.

Of course, it all boils down to taking responsibility for your life versus blaming the world for your problems. Sure there are lot of evil conniving beeeactches out there, men AND women. learn to recognize them early and move on.

As for rollos original "thought provoking" question. We've ALL been misled to a LARGE degree. Question is, what the fukk are you going to do about it?
Are you gonna figure out what works, and use whatever model of reality is a best fit to get you what you want in life? or are you gonna sit back and complain on an internet message board? Life is too short to whine.

"The leads are weak!"
"YOU"RE WEAK!" to quote part of Chrisz's sig.
 

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Jitterbug said:
It's "misandry / misandrist" - the hatred of men.



And that includes most women, too. Generally, men trust women way more than women trust other women.
Yeah misandrist was the word. My mistake. You see and hear the word so little that it's not as familar as misogynist is :D .
 

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lots of hallucinations in this post. The OP only used the word to describe MOST of what is on whymenarebetterthanwomen.com or whatever the sight is. His only point was that there is a lot of bitterness on this sight towords women, which he reiterated above, and that there are lot of good women out there. You are allowed to say NEXT to a girl if you don't like her, you know.

Of course, it all boils down to taking responsibility for your life versus blaming the world for your problems. Sure there are lot of evil conniving beeeactches out there, men AND women. learn to recognize them early and move on.

As for rollos original "thought provoking" question. We've ALL been misled to a LARGE degree. Question is, what the fukk are you going to do about it?
Are you gonna figure out what works, and use whatever model of reality is a best fit to get you what you want in life? or are you gonna sit back and complain on an internet message board? Life is too short to whine.

"The leads are weak!"
"YOU"RE WEAK!" to quote part of Chrisz's sig.
Yes, but you are totally missing the points that men are often incorrectly labeled misogynist/bitter while the female counterpart is labeled just being normal or a feminist at worst, and men have more good cause to be "misogynist" than women have for their constant complaints. Yours and the OP's message needs to be directed more at women than it does men. Oh that's right, doing that would be acting like a bitter misogynist.
 

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I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

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