ready123
Master Don Juan
ketostix said:For most people, and all women, the standard definition of a misogynist=a guy who does not accept all of feminism's dogma and verbalizes any descention.
I thought a misogynist was someone who hates women
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
ketostix said:For most people, and all women, the standard definition of a misogynist=a guy who does not accept all of feminism's dogma and verbalizes any descention.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
That is what it is, and that is the working definition as it is used here as well.ready123 said:I thought a misogynist was someone who hates women
A typical modern liberated strong independent (anything else?) woman always calls a guy who criticizes her a misogynist, when the fact is that he probably just doesn't like her, but likes other women.ready123 said:I thought a misogynist was someone who hates women
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I agree with this. It's almost like you're watching a remake of a movie, you know what the next scene is but each girl plays it in a slightly different way.ready123 said:when you get good at this stuff, you learn to appreciate why women have these wierd autopilot responses. you go from being frustrated to realizing all that behavior has a purpose. and once you understand it, it becomes amusing, not something to get pissed at
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Yeah really. Why don't we ask how many women on here are misandrogist or are on LS? Anytime you hear a female labeling someone a misogynist you can be pretty sure it's kettle calling the pot black.reset said:Well if it includes mistrust, I'd say 99% of the guys here are misogynists, with you as the exception. That's an awfully general description.
Quick! What's the female version of this word?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
And that includes most women, too. Generally, men trust women way more than women trust other women.reset said:Well if it includes mistrust, I'd say 99% of the guys here are misogynists, with you as the exception. That's an awfully general description.
Yeah misandrist was the word. My mistake. You see and hear the word so little that it's not as familar as misogynist isJitterbug said:It's "misandry / misandrist" - the hatred of men.
And that includes most women, too. Generally, men trust women way more than women trust other women.
Yes, but you are totally missing the points that men are often incorrectly labeled misogynist/bitter while the female counterpart is labeled just being normal or a feminist at worst, and men have more good cause to be "misogynist" than women have for their constant complaints. Yours and the OP's message needs to be directed more at women than it does men. Oh that's right, doing that would be acting like a bitter misogynist.taiyuu_otoko said:lots of hallucinations in this post. The OP only used the word to describe MOST of what is on whymenarebetterthanwomen.com or whatever the sight is. His only point was that there is a lot of bitterness on this sight towords women, which he reiterated above, and that there are lot of good women out there. You are allowed to say NEXT to a girl if you don't like her, you know.
Of course, it all boils down to taking responsibility for your life versus blaming the world for your problems. Sure there are lot of evil conniving beeeactches out there, men AND women. learn to recognize them early and move on.
As for rollos original "thought provoking" question. We've ALL been misled to a LARGE degree. Question is, what the fukk are you going to do about it?
Are you gonna figure out what works, and use whatever model of reality is a best fit to get you what you want in life? or are you gonna sit back and complain on an internet message board? Life is too short to whine.
"The leads are weak!"
"YOU"RE WEAK!" to quote part of Chrisz's sig.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.