"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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mag333

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Hey,

Working on a milf in my class at school. She's a really cool chick and a good mom. But I think I got into the friend zone. I was dating someone when we first met so we became friends kinda and hung out mostly with a mutual friend. But since I'm free now, I started spending more one on one time. She has commented that I get along with her kid well and that he likes me and she wants me to move in with her to save rent next year and often tells me I can stay over if I'm too tipsy or tired to drive home. Which I haven't yet just cuz I never really had to and wasn't quite sure how to take it.

So I guess I'm just wondering if you guys have any ideas or advice. I'm 23 and she's like 10 years older.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SamePendo

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Haha, just read a thread that answers your question.

Go to her house to "watch a movie", cuddle a bit, start kissing, and see where it goes. And make it a grown-up movie, under NO circumstance rent a Disney movie, that'll keep the kid up all freaking night, if he is there.

Do it right, and if she isn't down with it, **** it, move on, you have enough friends.
 

Adrian

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There is no such thing as the "friends zone". There is almost always a way out of it. Sounds more like she wants you to be her sons new dad and is willing to take care of you in the process. I'd say put the moves and make your intentions known about where you want this to go. Don't be so straight forward about it and keep the game playing to a minimum. What I mean by this is to apply the DJ rules but keep the mind games out of it. Don't tolerate any BS from her if she plays any herself. Plan some alone time between the two of you, keep things spontaneous and fun, make her feel like a queen and just don't go AFC. However I wouldn't recommend for you to put all your eggs in one basket. Pursue other women for the time being until you become exclusive with her if that turns out to be the case.
 

Big Eee Zee

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make sure you are willing to commit some time to this relationship, kids make everything harder. if it doesnt work out, sometimes its hard to just walk away if you and the kid are buddies...
 

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There's a chance you two could live happily ever after, but most likely no. She is ten years older and has a child; that means she is working on settling down into that steady rhythm of work, going home, work, going home, that you follow until you retire and then die. There is nothing wrong with that, it is what keeps a society afloat. However, you are not there yet, are you? You are only 23, which means you have many years left of dating girls. If you move in with this woman, you will miss all that, and you'll come to miss it more the longer you stay.

She should find a man in her age, someone who is ready to settle down with her. And you, you should keep dating women, meeting friends, and growing through your experiences while you make a life for yourself.

Btw, to answer your question: don't worry, if you'd move in with her you would most definitely get into her pants and you'd become an item. She wants a father for her kid, right? And she has already said you can stay at her place when you need to - she wouldn't say that if she didn't want you to have sex with her and then move in.

And another thing: whenever you have sex with a milf, always wear a condom. It does not matter if she says she is on the pill. Women over thirty often use pregnancy to snare a guy; the world is full of men who didn't believe that and are sorry they didn't.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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El' Waynos

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She told you that you can stay over if you are tipsy??

Bust over full of booze and just start playing around with her, joking etc.. then go through her underware draw when she is making coffee or in the bathroom.
 

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Keep your distance. It's ok if you want to pursue, but don't even think about moving in. The "save on the rent" excuse is the most played out, lamest excuse for two people to live together. Trust me.

Do this: Get drunk, take up her offer to stay at her place and see what happens. If you get laid, great, but never ever move in with this one!
 

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Mag, what the f*ck are you doing? You obviously didn't read "13 Reasons To Avoid Single Mothers,"http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97081

This chick is like the "scary house," in the horror movie. YOU NEED TO GET OUT NOW!!! She wants you to move in, split the bills, and play daddy to her kid? Are you out of your f*cking mind?

Dude this is a bad situation and it can only get worse. If you start supporting this kid and you break up with her, she depending on the laws of your state, SHE CAN GO TO FAMILY COURT AND MAKE YOU PAY CHILD SUPPORT FOR A KID THAT ISN'T EVEN YOURS!!!! Washington State is one of those places.

Mag it isn't your place to step in and clean up this b*tche's mess. This is one of the reasons why Leykis says not to mess with single mothers. Your only 23 yrs old. Your suppose to be in college, graduate school, or starting your career. Your suppose to spend your weekends trolling for a$$, buying rims, and planning to spend next spring break in Cabo.

Dude if you get involved with this b*tch, all of a sudden your goals and dreams go on the back burner because you have to get a full time job so "she can save on rent next yr."

This is an bad situation and will only expotentially get worse. This b*tch doesn't want you, she wants your money and wants your to "play "daddy," DON'T DO IT!!! And never again in life give a chick with kids the time of day.
 

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^^^^ KNOWS what he's saying lmfao... Mang you gotta have your own fort to get away and ****.. Get some ***** get paid do your thing, but never move in??? Wtf... You got a lot to learn if you thinking like this..

Belair
 

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belaire, shut up. you are wrong, he is not.

avoiding single mothers is by far one of the best ideas you can have. there are exceptions, but the rule is to avoid them normally. Kids have a way of messing everything up in a relationship. he does know what he is talking about.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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