A lot of talk in this board has been presented regarding metrosexuality. If I had to give my take on the topic, I'd say that my opinions are ambivalent. On the positive note, I totally respect it as a philosophy that states that men and women roles should not be determined by gender. This implies that it should not be solely the man's responsibility to ask out for the date, provide most of the income for the family and make most of the political decisions. This has traditionally been the case, but thanks to feminism more and more people are realizing that women are equal to men and that gender roles mean squat. Pretty soon you'll be seeing more women that do the things listed above. The aspect of metrosexuality that I despise is the visuals, meaning the way these men are dressing up and cleansing themselves. Although I would totally appreciate a woman asking me out and assuming the dominant role in the relationship, I would never be seen wearing pink flannel with tight jeans while putting on make-up. That ain't a pretty sight IMHO. To sum up, gender differences are only applicable in the physical dimension where each gender is entitled to a different treatment of their bodies. In the social dimension, there should not be a line between how man and woman is supposed to behave.
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Metrosexuality
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
sexual_intellectual
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That would be OK as an idea if we could separate physical aspects completely from emotional aspects, and social aspects, etc.
The fact is that as people we are Physical, emotional, social, spiritual beings. Physical differences between men and women affect our emotions, our behaviour, etc. There is no way that I will ever treat a woman the same way as a man in any sphere.
I'll do what I can to treat everyone fairly and with respect - but don't expect me to deny male/female gender roles. I'll be flexible with a woman I'm in a relationship with, but thats as far as it goes.
You say "I totally respect it as a philosophy that states that men and women roles should not be determined by gender" - well how are you going to determine male and female roles then?
What a ridiculous idea! The sooner it dies out, the better.
The fact is that as people we are Physical, emotional, social, spiritual beings. Physical differences between men and women affect our emotions, our behaviour, etc. There is no way that I will ever treat a woman the same way as a man in any sphere.
I'll do what I can to treat everyone fairly and with respect - but don't expect me to deny male/female gender roles. I'll be flexible with a woman I'm in a relationship with, but thats as far as it goes.
You say "I totally respect it as a philosophy that states that men and women roles should not be determined by gender" - well how are you going to determine male and female roles then?
What a ridiculous idea! The sooner it dies out, the better.
squirrels
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Yes. And communism should work.
Unfortunately it doesn't...human beings just aren't wired that way.
Get the idea?
Maybe your idea is not really what metrosexuality is... Its basically just a stupid word TV invented to describe guys who take care of themselves. Expensive haircuts and expensive fashionable clothes, etc.
If a straight guy does that, yet acts like a homo, then he should be shot imo (not that I have anything against gays, but that’s just taking the fad way too far). But I don’t see any problem with it if the guy remains hetero or whatever
If a straight guy does that, yet acts like a homo, then he should be shot imo (not that I have anything against gays, but that’s just taking the fad way too far). But I don’t see any problem with it if the guy remains hetero or whatever
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Same here buddy, I would obviously give the girl more attention.
Simple!! there aren't any. Each person can be whom they want to be without society's definitions of what a gender is supposed to do.
I don't think you got my point.
Gender roles are the result of culture, not anything biological. It is society's influence that leads us to believe these matters.
If you've got a better name for this philosophy I describe, then give it to us GENIUS!!
Come on now, men are men and women are women.
To me personally, femininity is sexy. Masculinity is not.
Everyone should be treated fairly and equally but genders are naturally different.
Assuming there is no disrespect, I see no problem with gender roles.
To me personally, femininity is sexy. Masculinity is not.
Everyone should be treated fairly and equally but genders are naturally different.
Assuming there is no disrespect, I see no problem with gender roles.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
Just know Metro'ss get less repsect as a man
even tho I hate him.
if President Bush was a Metro would he of gotten elected? HELL NO !
even tho I hate him.
if President Bush was a Metro would he of gotten elected? HELL NO !
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Baaaaaa!
Lets all swallow one more pop-culture, soundbite, buzz term before our handlers put us back in the pen for the night.
'Metrosexual' is just another ridiculous concept sold to an ever more gender-confused male population as some key that will solve the problem of "what women really want." What's more pathetic is that we seem to think we even need to consider whether 4 homosexual men on a TV show can show heterosexual men how to pick up women by becoming more androgenous.
Switch channels now,..*click*
"Geez Oprah, why can't men just man-up? Where have all the cowboys gone?"
*click*
Do you want to be a girl's heterosexual 'f_ag-hag' fantasy by becoming more androgenous or do you want to get after it with a chick who's into you in the masculine?
DISTURBED: The problem with your understanding is that while the possibility exists that men and women are 'equal' in most respects, we're still different, physiologically, evolutionarily, emotionally and psychologically and there's nothing wron with it - it's worked pretty well for tens of thousands of years. Androgeny isn't the way to attraction and even the women who've swallowed this to the greatest extent still belie their intent with their behaviors regularly and predictably enough to draw conclusions from it.
In this respect metrosexuality is just another sugar coating for men to abandon masculinity as a negative. It's never the feminine that is in the negative always the masculine.
Lets all swallow one more pop-culture, soundbite, buzz term before our handlers put us back in the pen for the night.
'Metrosexual' is just another ridiculous concept sold to an ever more gender-confused male population as some key that will solve the problem of "what women really want." What's more pathetic is that we seem to think we even need to consider whether 4 homosexual men on a TV show can show heterosexual men how to pick up women by becoming more androgenous.
Switch channels now,..*click*
"Geez Oprah, why can't men just man-up? Where have all the cowboys gone?"
*click*
Do you want to be a girl's heterosexual 'f_ag-hag' fantasy by becoming more androgenous or do you want to get after it with a chick who's into you in the masculine?
DISTURBED: The problem with your understanding is that while the possibility exists that men and women are 'equal' in most respects, we're still different, physiologically, evolutionarily, emotionally and psychologically and there's nothing wron with it - it's worked pretty well for tens of thousands of years. Androgeny isn't the way to attraction and even the women who've swallowed this to the greatest extent still belie their intent with their behaviors regularly and predictably enough to draw conclusions from it.
In this respect metrosexuality is just another sugar coating for men to abandon masculinity as a negative. It's never the feminine that is in the negative always the masculine.
DeathDealer
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Metrosexuals are high maintenance men who are self absorbed and enjoy spending money to make themselves look good.
In other words: As fake as they can be.
Now if you're rich (Making more than $80k a year and your job demands you look pristine) then it's a good excuse. Looking metro in college or working for $8 an hour is laughable.
In other words: As fake as they can be.
Now if you're rich (Making more than $80k a year and your job demands you look pristine) then it's a good excuse. Looking metro in college or working for $8 an hour is laughable.