"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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first time I met her she gave me a hug and now when I see her like at the mall and stuff she says hi. i started talking to her on myspace/aim. only talked to her once, it kinda seemed like I ran out of stuff to talk about. what are ways to not get in friend zone or w/e? plz give anyother advice. also how often should I try to talk when it's not in person (texts, internet)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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First welcome to the forums.

Anyway, id say limit the texts and stuff to retain a sense of mystery. Do lots of kino to stay out of the friend zone, and make sure you remember you are the prize she is working for when your talking. This will give you more confidence when you're talking with her.
 

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ok thanks. oh yeah it feels im running out of things to talk to. what are some like subtle things I could talk about or say to stay out of friends zone
 

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really anything that would vaguely interest a girl. Try talking about music(no emo, or hard rock. Just what ever kind shes into). Most girls know a lot about celebrities, you could search the web for jokes about them that will get them to laugh. I date a lot of girls who play lacrosse, so we talk about the differences between boys and girls lacrosse. Talk about sports, surfing, movies, anything that doesnt involve bodily functions, video games (i no dude. i dont no why girls dont like them), or previous relationships. Post more questions if you need help. The only way to lears is to ask :)
 

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oh ok. she plays field hockey. last time I talked to her was yesterday. should I wait a while to talk to her unless I see her in real life?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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i would. If she messages you or texts you carry on a conversation with her. But I wouldnt initiate a conversation for a day unless its real life. If its real liffe, by all means, go for it. Also, if you really want to stay out of the friends zone, make sure you don't do any favors for her, you want her to think of you as her man, not her guy she can use, or the guys she can vent to.

For the whole field hockey thing, my girl friend to be(ive been talking to her for a little, just got to spring the trap) plays it. A few good ideas on what to talk about whould be how much their back hurst while playing it, what position the play, etc. You could make a joke out of it and offer her one of your "world renowned massages" to help her aching back. Shell get a laugh out of it at if she agrees its great kino.
 

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repped :). i think the tone of how i talk on the internet is too "friendly" i guess more targeted to someone in the friends zone. how could I change that.
 

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this ones a little harder, because by talking on the internet and texting and stuff you lose your ability to use kino and body language to portray your domination. So when online remember:

1) Your the alpha male
2) Be funny
3) Dont be afraid to joke about making out, dating etc. The littlest hints implants things in a girl's brain and lets her imagination run wild.
4) No favors
5) No "ill be your ear you can vent into about your problems." Just say your busy and have stuff to do if she starts. Shell get the idea.
6) Remember to try to be funny
 
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