My Name is Nobody
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I've decided on not calling to confirm.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
"Seemed" positive? That sounds a bit different than a definite "yes" along with a suggestion of an activity or venue.My Name is Nobody said:...
I told her we should go out again soon and she seemed positive...
Francisco d'Anconia said:"Seemed" positive? That sounds a bit different than a definite "yes" along with a suggestion of an activity or venue.
You should have kept that kind of statement for AFTER date (2 or 3 days later) !I told her we should go out again soon and she seemed positive
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Interesting.. Francisco thinks I should have asked her for the next date, and Cedd thinks I shouldn't have even mentioned another date.cedd said:You should have kept that kind of statement for AFTER date (2 or 3 days later) !
I think through your posts you invested too much energy and brainstorming for such a common date (even shes so-called hot). Like Fd said, "Slown down" and go find other alternative.
cheers
It seems like you just made yourself a friend.My Name is Nobody said:It went OK.
Met up at the place and introduced myself. We went and ordered the drinks.
We sat and talked for a good 30 minutes. I made her laugh and she said I am really funny. No awkward silences and I didn't say anything stupid that I regret.
When my coffee was done I said "well I gotta go" and I stood up. I walked her out and opened my arms and she gave me a nice hug and that was it.
I told her we should go out again soon and she seemed positive.
So what's the next move?
I have no way of knowing but, by experience, dont set up a date on a date.My Name is Nobody said:Interesting.. Francisco thinks I should have asked her for the next date, and Cedd thinks I shouldn't have even mentioned another date.
So which is it?
amoka said:It seems like you just made yourself a friend.
So I compromised. I mentioned the next date to her but didn't set any details. I feel pretty good about getting it we'll see.cedd said:I have no way of knowing but, by experience, dont set up a date on a date.
You should asked her for a date AFTER date. Cause if you set up a date at the end of the date, she might be ok though, BUT 10 minutes later she could regret and theres great chance she flakes on the 2nd date.
Waiting and patience work in your favor.
cheers
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
What guys don't realize about the "2-3 day rule" is that it only works with women who have a high interest level in you. If you haven't gotten to that point, waiting multiple days will make it easier for her to forget you. In your situation MNIN, you aren't even sure if she's interested, women who are interested will do things to let you know, primarily they are forthright with their schedule in order to see you again.My Name is Nobody said:Interesting.. Francisco thinks I should have asked her for the next date, and Cedd thinks I shouldn't have even mentioned another date.
So which is it?
The problem is that guys don't get the woman into the state of wanting to see him again while they are chit-chatting. They're so busy being a mystery and aloof, the woman never increases her attraction to them.cedd said:don't rush things. you are not desperate, aren't you ?
i agree with Fd but here we don't know what he said or act during that date.
did he play a good game or not ? did she show some interest in him ? etc.
Can he just say shes interested ? I don"t think so...So the only way to know her IL is to ask her out.
But ask her out at the end of the date can not demonstrate shes interested....
I do a huge amount of Internet dating. I'm going to put up a post in the next week or two that I think some folks here might find helpful that touches on getting first dates from Internet platforms. I'm not very good at getting 2nd dates, but I do get a lot of 1st dates.My Name is Nobody said:What should I have done then?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.