"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Men's friendships with women 'driven by sexual attraction'
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Who Dares Win
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There is nothing to discuss about, frienship with men and women does not exists.
No man wants to be friend with a girl he doesnt find attractive while no woman wants to be friend with a man from which she cannot benefit in some way (wheter is being offered drinks, invited to parties, job connection or ego boost).
The same concept of friendzone is clear enough as well.
1)guy wants girl but she see him "as a friend", meaning she doesnt find him phisycally attractive enough for anything intimate yet he still hopes.
2)girl wants guy but he see her "as a friend" meaning she is good looking enough to be a fvck buddy but not hot enough to be a girlfriend.
These are the two cases of friendship between the sexes.
Do you have some female friends which you dont find attractive?
Anyway the funny thing is this:
Men like women who act dumb, being dumb not try hard or sh1t testsing them or challenge them for the sake of it
Men have twice as many partners of any girl which divided by 10 her count and dont count bl0w jobs at clubs
Women more moral than men, if being leftist means "moral"
Men want cuddles but women prefer sex, when they both passed 50yrs and she is fat enough to be a pillow
No man wants to be friend with a girl he doesnt find attractive while no woman wants to be friend with a man from which she cannot benefit in some way (wheter is being offered drinks, invited to parties, job connection or ego boost).
The same concept of friendzone is clear enough as well.
1)guy wants girl but she see him "as a friend", meaning she doesnt find him phisycally attractive enough for anything intimate yet he still hopes.
2)girl wants guy but he see her "as a friend" meaning she is good looking enough to be a fvck buddy but not hot enough to be a girlfriend.
These are the two cases of friendship between the sexes.
Do you have some female friends which you dont find attractive?
Anyway the funny thing is this:
:crackup:
Men like women who act dumb, being dumb not try hard or sh1t testsing them or challenge them for the sake of it
Men have twice as many partners of any girl which divided by 10 her count and dont count bl0w jobs at clubs
Women more moral than men, if being leftist means "moral"
Men want cuddles but women prefer sex, when they both passed 50yrs and she is fat enough to be a pillow
Love's Orphan
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there is a saying in spanish that goes : "For a man, having a female friend is like having a chicken as a pet. Sooner or later, he will start thinking about eating it."
You may have attractive ones as friends for social proof and requires some control.
You may have attractive ones as friends for social proof and requires some control.
BRIFFAULT’S LAW:
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit
A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male.
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit
A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male.
Uncharted
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If I am really a friend with a girl, it's because:
1. I am not interested in fvcking her.
2. I cannot fvck her due to some pre-existing condition (ie. she is dating my boy, we work together, etc)
I don't have any friends that do not fall into these two categories.
1. I am not interested in fvcking her.
2. I cannot fvck her due to some pre-existing condition (ie. she is dating my boy, we work together, etc)
I don't have any friends that do not fall into these two categories.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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Your GF has a bestie that's a dude? Invoke the golden rule! It's the only fair way around this. The following is a quote from another thread.
I'll always throw the golden rule down whenever things start getting serious. First naughty behavior, and i'll have a little chat with her. I'll ask her what kind of relationship she wants. I'll tell her that it's her choice, she can have an open relationship or hang out with her ex if she wants to either way I don't care. All i'm worried about is that things are fair. If she wants to hangout with dudes, I can hangout with girls maybe my ex too. This is a great convo to have at the beginning of a relationship, I have never had bad results with this.
It says that you have female friends you want to hang with.
It shows her you are not so much in her pocket by wanting exclusivity with her.
It shows her you are more in control of your emotions than she thinks by being so dismissive of monogamy or whatever.
It's a neg because you just told her that you really don't care what she does as long as you can do it too.
It really sets you aside from all the insecure little kids she has been dating in the past. Quite honestly I do care, but the purpose of the convo is to make her care too. It's too easy for a girl to be offered something free from some dude think it's innocent enough and take it. But when you put yourself in the scenario by telling her that you plan on buying girls lunches or planning something to do with your ex things change. And she has to understand that the door swings both ways, and it may swing a little wider for you because after all you are the one with the bread to spend on dinners and such.
It also changes the nature of her deception, she's not keeping a secret because you are so irrational and insecure for your own good, or because she knows it's just an innocent thing between friends. You have a deal that is based on fairness, almost a relationship oath and if she breaks it she is being dishonest with your relationship. There are no excuses now of just friends or any other BS she may use to justify her actions.
If she can do it, I can do it too.
I'll always throw the golden rule down whenever things start getting serious. First naughty behavior, and i'll have a little chat with her. I'll ask her what kind of relationship she wants. I'll tell her that it's her choice, she can have an open relationship or hang out with her ex if she wants to either way I don't care. All i'm worried about is that things are fair. If she wants to hangout with dudes, I can hangout with girls maybe my ex too. This is a great convo to have at the beginning of a relationship, I have never had bad results with this.
It says that you have female friends you want to hang with.
It shows her you are not so much in her pocket by wanting exclusivity with her.
It shows her you are more in control of your emotions than she thinks by being so dismissive of monogamy or whatever.
It's a neg because you just told her that you really don't care what she does as long as you can do it too.
It really sets you aside from all the insecure little kids she has been dating in the past. Quite honestly I do care, but the purpose of the convo is to make her care too. It's too easy for a girl to be offered something free from some dude think it's innocent enough and take it. But when you put yourself in the scenario by telling her that you plan on buying girls lunches or planning something to do with your ex things change. And she has to understand that the door swings both ways, and it may swing a little wider for you because after all you are the one with the bread to spend on dinners and such.
It also changes the nature of her deception, she's not keeping a secret because you are so irrational and insecure for your own good, or because she knows it's just an innocent thing between friends. You have a deal that is based on fairness, almost a relationship oath and if she breaks it she is being dishonest with your relationship. There are no excuses now of just friends or any other BS she may use to justify her actions.
If she can do it, I can do it too.
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Never be just friends with a woman. I don't accept friendship from women.
SamTheHobit
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Fvck yeah!nismo-4 said:
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"Men's relationships with their female friends may be fuelled by an undercurrent of sexual attraction regardless of whether they are single"
Nooo sh!t..
Nooo sh!t..
This seems extremely obvious (to me). Whether the guy is outwardly displaying it or if he has hidden it in his subconscious, or if it's so buried in his subconscious that he is considered "gay", the fact remains that all guys have the masculine drive. It is always there whether the guy is comfortable with it or not. Men and women cannot be friends if they are both perfectly honest with each other. They can be "dates" or "casual dates", but not friends in the sense that two guys can be or two girls can be. The sexual undercurrent is ALWAYS present.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.