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Men Don’t Want a Relationship with Women over 30.

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Article where man tells her woman friend (doesn’t say if they have slept together) that men wanted women in their 20s. These women were unaffected by gravity; they still had firm breasts, nice firm round butts and, they were not fat and wrinkled. Additionally, he said that their vaginas were tighter because they had less sexual partners than their 30-something counterparts.


The main thing keeping 30-plus-year-old women single, he said, is their need for perfection. He argues that women in their 30s want the perfect man; tall, dark and handsome, with his own apartment/house and a flashy ride. They would not give the short guy the time of day.

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I disagree. The typical unmarried guy in his 30s/40s is a vagina beggar who will gladly accept an extended relationship with a similarly aged woman.

Roosh wrote about this in 2014....

"a woman will not be able to get a man as hot or alpha or rich at 35 than 25, but I’m afraid to tell you that this doesn’t give us as much deliverance as you may think.

Levels of thirst in America are higher than any other country I’ve been in. Men are so desperate for women that they will date way below their value in order to achieve a basic relationship. This means that they will not only accept—but fight over—a spinster woman at 35 who finally has decided to stop getting pumped and dumped."




If a woman over 30 is single, it is due to the fact she is overly selective. She has plenty of options, especially in the era of swipe apps.
 
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I disagree. The typical unmarried guy in his 30s/40s is a vagina beggar who will gladly accept an extended relationship with a similarly aged woman.

Roosh wrote about this in 2014....

"a woman will not be able to get a man as hot or alpha or rich at 35 than 25, but I’m afraid to tell you that this doesn’t give us as much deliverance as you may think.

Levels of thirst in America are higher than any other country I’ve been in. Men are so desperate for women that they will date way below their value in order to achieve a basic relationship. This means that they will not only accept—but fight over—a spinster woman at 35 who finally has decided to stop getting pumped and dumped."




If a woman over 30 is single, it is due to the fact she is overly selective. She has plenty of options, especially in the era of swipe apps.
What you say is correct, I also believe that the wall is not a brick wall but more of a plastic tire.

The issue for those women is that when she meets a 35 yrs old man willing to have a relationship with her, there is a good chance that the guy is not exactly into kids and family or is not suitable for it.

Any decent man willing to have a family usually seals the deal by his early 30s.

So yeah they can find sub optimal men to settle with but they have to accept that no high value men will look at them and those sub optimal that do most likely wont be into playing house and kids.

Also when you deal with a 30+ woman, you generally keep a foot in and a foot out cause you accept it may be a temporary deal.
 

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Well, the vagina/partners thing is an embarrassing lack of knowledge about women’s anatomy.

Partners don’t make it loose, nor does the size of the ham cannon she’s getting. Lack of muscle tone does. A woman can do Kegels to tighten it up. Additionally, a young woman in a long term relationship with one guy is probably having sex a lot more often than someone who isn’t.

The vagina is extremely resilient.
 

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The issue for those women is that when she meets a 35 yrs old man willing to have a relationship with her, there is a good chance that the guy is not exactly into kids and family or is not suitable for it.

Any decent man willing to have a family usually seals the deal by his early 30s.
There are also men 35-44 who are single dads too. Many 35-44 year olds feel like they did the kid thing with their ex/baby mama and aren't interested in more kids. That's problematic for the 30 something woman who wants kids. The 30 something woman who wants kids is usually childless.

Childless men 35-44 years old often don't want to start having kids, which is also problematic for the 30+ woman who wants kids.

So yeah they can find sub optimal men to settle with but they have to accept that no high value men will look at them and those sub optimal that do most likely wont be into playing house and kids.

Also when you deal with a 30+ woman, you generally keep a foot in and a foot out cause you accept it may be a temporary deal.
True, but suboptimal isn't always bad. To a woman, a suboptimal guy might be a 37 year old making $90,000/year instead of one making $150,000/year +. $90,000 is still pretty good compared to the general public.

A large percentage of men are typically invisible to women, including some men that are decent but not overwhelming on paper.
 

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Regarding the author, tell me you're a hoe without saying you're a hoe:
Most men are not asked to talk about the number of partners they’ve had, so I find it ridiculous that in this day and age the number of men that a woman sleeps with matters. The only thing that should matter is her faithfulness to her current relationship.
In our twenties we are young and carefree, exploring life and discovering ourselves. So, of course, we will make mistakes in our lives, careers, finances, and relationships.
I think the main points the guy makes for women in their 20s are 100% accurate: 1. physical appearance and 2. lack of or at least less baggage. But we know that in reality plenty of guys get in relationships with women in their 30s ... even on this forum there are posters who prefer 'more experienced' women.
 

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Men are so desperate for women that they will date way below their value in order to achieve a basic relationship. This means that they will not only accept—but fight over—a spinster woman at 35
Sadly this is true. Most men does not know with own innate value and sell themselves off to lowest bidder.
 

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But we know that in reality plenty of guys get in relationships with women in their 30s ... even on this forum there are posters who prefer 'more experienced' women.
If you are 40s/50s/60s, have kids and don't want more, single mothers in 30s/40s etc might be your best bet. 20s/30s and childless guys need to stay away from mothers and 30+ women.
 

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Article where man tells her woman friend (doesn’t say if they have slept together) that men wanted women in their 20s. These women were unaffected by gravity; they still had firm breasts, nice firm round butts and, they were not fat and wrinkled. Additionally, he said that their vaginas were tighter because they had less sexual partners than their 30-something counterparts.


The main thing keeping 30-plus-year-old women single, he said, is their need for perfection. He argues that women in their 30s want the perfect man; tall, dark and handsome, with his own apartment/house and a flashy ride. They would not give the short guy the time of day.

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They're losing value by the day. No intelligent man is going to invest in that.
 

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The main thing keeping 30-plus-year-old women single, he said, is their need for perfection. He argues that women in their 30s want the perfect man; tall, dark and handsome, with his own apartment/house and a flashy ride. They would not give the short guy the time of day.

Thoughts?
This is a good point. These women are living in a paradox in that they've "learned" what kind of guy they want so they get pickier as they age, which is the dumbest thing for them. So while I do find women in their 30s as still attractive, they're not a good time. But let that be their problems, not ours. Stick to younger.
 

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This is a good point. These women are living in a paradox in that they've "learned" what kind of guy they want so they get pickier as they age, which is the dumbest thing for them. So while I do find women in their 30s as still attractive, they're not a good time. But let that be their problems, not ours. Stick to younger.
Women in 30s are running on their biological timeline, you can never have full control of the frame unless you're happy wasting away their last few years. I've declined some dates with 29+ recently as it's not even worth the recreational use. I'm restricting myself to under 27, and over HB7 moving forward. Meaning a 28-year-old HB7 is no longer worth my time.
 

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Article where man tells her woman friend (doesn’t say if they have slept together) that men wanted women in their 20s. These women were unaffected by gravity; they still had firm breasts, nice firm round butts and, they were not fat and wrinkled. Additionally, he said that their vaginas were tighter because they had less sexual partners than their 30-something counterparts.


The main thing keeping 30-plus-year-old women single, he said, is their need for perfection. He argues that women in their 30s want the perfect man; tall, dark and handsome, with his own apartment/house and a flashy ride. They would not give the short guy the time of day.

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She'll give the short guy a chance if he stands tall on his wallet.
 

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Regarding the author, tell me you're a hoe without saying you're a hoe:



I think the main points the guy makes for women in their 20s are 100% accurate: 1. physical appearance and 2. lack of or at least less baggage. But we know that in reality plenty of guys get in relationships with women in their 30s ... even on this forum there are posters who prefer 'more experienced' women.
Does it sven matter? Lets say you are a 30 y.o man who meets a 25 year old angelic woman that's also a virgin...5 years later she is 30. They break up, dude is also 5 years older.

Oke he can do it again. Maybe twice? So at 35 and 40 he will be able to get 25 y.o women. But i think for starters this must be a good looking man with some status and money and ofcourse tons of game. A 5 percenter. The average 45 years old bloke wont be able to just pull 25 y.o women left and right.

So even though it makes sense that younger women are more ,even the most attractive, its bs to completly look passed any woman older than 30. Again, if you are in the top 5% of men you may live by this mantra. But if you are a normal guy you better expand your possible targets.
 

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I agree with the general consensus that younger women are "better". But i wonder how many of you actually live by this .

Your age matters a lot also. Like i said before, this 25 y.o bs you can only pull twice in your life. Because whats the goal? A steady gf? A wife? A mother for your kids? She wont stay 25 forever. Why does her age matters , aside from looks? And what about your emotional baggage? At end 30 with many notches I find its hard to sincerely fall in love like i did when i was 20.

You gotta have tons of game so you can replace your 25 y.o woman at will for another 25 y.o . When it comes to looks i think age difference matter most to determine how you'll view a woman's attractiveness. E.g a 60 y.o man and a 18 y.o man might have a different opinion about the same 30 y.o woman. For one she'll be a milf, for the other she'll resemble a teenage girl.

I think this obsession with women's age is one of the most damaging things of the manosphere. A man will miss tons of great experiences if he really lives by this.
 

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I think this obsession with women's age is one of the most damaging things of the manosphere. A man will miss tons of great experiences if he really lives by this.
If you're referring to just sex, as in getting an escort, agree. If you're looking for LTR/mother of your children, not really caring about her age and baggage is a kamikaze attitude. And regarding the attractive 25yrs old ... once you find a quality 25yrs old, the name of the game is not replace her every 5 years but building great experiences and a family together.
 

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My experience (not just mine, but of seeing friends too)
Is that, once a girl decides this is a serious relationship, it means you spending more time doing meaningless tasks and lame **** unrelated to sex.
But when relationships are just for fun, it is just that, fun.
They are for the most part unable to reconcile serious and fun into one thing.
 

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I disagree. The typical unmarried guy in his 30s/40s is a vagina beggar who will gladly accept an extended relationship with a similarly aged woman.

Roosh wrote about this in 2014....

"a woman will not be able to get a man as hot or alpha or rich at 35 than 25, but I’m afraid to tell you that this doesn’t give us as much deliverance as you may think.

Levels of thirst in America are higher than any other country I’ve been in. Men are so desperate for women that they will date way below their value in order to achieve a basic relationship. This means that they will not only accept—but fight over—a spinster woman at 35 who finally has decided to stop getting pumped and dumped."




If a woman over 30 is single, it is due to the fact she is overly selective. She has plenty of options, especially in the era of swipe apps.
Plenty of options but few of them are good ones. If you are out looking for used cars, you don't want one falling apart with all kinds of problems, you want one that is going to last and not have many issues.

Too many guys are lemons.
 
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