Men Are Ruining it For Other Men

[jaymbrs]

Lately I've been meeting women with ridiculous expectations from men. This is confirmed when asking female friends for advice on certain situations. Their advice is for the most part "You need to make more of an effort" "You should've paid for her drinks" "You should've been more creative with your date plans" "You should've paid her more attention" "You should've eaten her *****". You all get my drift.

I sat back and thought about all of this and realized it's not women expecting more out of the blue. It's all these betas who are doing more than they should, setting the bar up really high to the point these women now have become accustomed to. Social media definitely doesn't help either with all these ridiculous proposals, dates, etc. Gentlemen, we are doing this to ourselves. What better forum to begin a movement to scale this **** back. I love what I've read so far on here. Most responses I've read from posters are against going above and beyond for women. I hope every member on here continues to follow the solid advice because these women need to be brought back down to earth.

 

[Macaframalama]

Lately I've been meeting women with ridiculous expectations from men. This is confirmed when asking female friends for advice on certain situations. Their advice is for the most part "You need to make more of an effort" "You should've paid for her drinks" "You should've been more creative with your date plans" "You should've paid her more attention" "You should've eaten her *****". You all get my drift.

I sat back and thought about all of this and realized it's not women expecting more out of the blue. It's all these betas who are doing more than they should, setting the bar up really high to the point these women now have become accustomed to. Social media definitely doesn't help either with all these ridiculous proposals, dates, etc. Gentlemen, we are doing this to ourselves. What better forum to begin a movement to scale this **** back. I love what I've read so far on here. Most responses I've read from posters are against going above and beyond for women. I hope every member on here continues to follow the solid advice because these women need to be brought back down to earth.

Are you sure they don't see you as one of those betas? Sounds like the perfect opportunity to set yourself apart imo. What would be your thoughts if the roles were reversed?

 

[skinnyguy]

These chicks are fugging guys who do nothing for them and getting attention from guys who buy them handbags and clothes.

Your female friends want you to be a whiteknight. One of my New Years resolutions is to not spend a dime on women. Any money you spend on them is counterproductive. Those guys who spend on them aren’t banging them

 

[btownbuck2012]

Lately I've been meeting women with ridiculous expectations from men. This is confirmed when asking female friends for advice on certain situations. Their advice is for the most part "You need to make more of an effort" "You should've paid for her drinks" "You should've been more creative with your date plans" "You should've paid her more attention" "You should've eaten her *****". You all get my drift.

I sat back and thought about all of this and realized it's not women expecting more out of the blue. It's all these betas who are doing more than they should, setting the bar up really high to the point these women now have become accustomed to. Social media definitely doesn't help either with all these ridiculous proposals, dates, etc. Gentlemen, we are doing this to ourselves. What better forum to begin a movement to scale this **** back. I love what I've read so far on here. Most responses I've read from posters are against going above and beyond for women. I hope every member on here continues to follow the solid advice because these women need to be brought back down to earth.

NEVER take romantic advice from women. They have no idea what they're talking about.

Also, taking a woman out for drinks, dinner and putting in an effort, i.e. Pursuing her early on before you've had sex with her is not "beta" if it comes from a position of strength. I have no problem taking a woman out to dinner at a favorite restaurant of mine. It's quiet, it's intimate and it's what I prefer because it fits into my schedule. Same thing with pursuing women early on in the dating process. Lots of women won't start initiating much until after you've had sex with them, but they'll be super receptive to your advances and that's fine. I've got no problem pursuing a woman I'm interested in romantically. I do these things because I want to, not because I'm trying to impress her.

Rejection literally doesn't exist when you approach women and dating from this mindset. Women don't reject me - they DQ themselves from getting anymore of my energy and time put into them.

 

[Urbanyst]

Sh*t tests.

When you meet ass-hole women who are sh*tty people. Act like it. Don't be nice to these hoes.

 

[marmel75]

If she is attracted to you none of that sh!t matters. She will pay for drinks...buy you dinner...cook you dinner...bang you all night long after you spent no money that night...

If you think you need to spend a bunch of money because of these dumb asses out there, the woman just isn't attracted to you enough or your game is not strong enough.

Its irrelevant. Acting manly and escalating never goes out of style.

 

[Infern0]

Yes and no.

Realistically your game has to be TIGHT these days, social media DOES make it more difficult because women are getting way more attention. But it's like i always say go to your local mall on a saturday, sit and people watch and guarentee you'll see plenty of dudes who are punching.

For me 2018 is gonna be my year of self development and avoiding attatchment.

If you arent getting the success you want in the dating world i can pretty well guarentee theres still areas that you are lacking in. Work on those.

 

[Trump]

Lately I've been meeting women with ridiculous expectations from men. This is confirmed when asking female friends for advice on certain situations. Their advice is for the most part "You need to make more of an effort" "You should've paid for her drinks" "You should've been more creative with your date plans" "You should've paid her more attention" "You should've eaten her *****". You all get my drift.

Your female friends are right, you should make more of an effort.

What better forum to begin a movement to scale this **** back. I love what I've read so far on here. Most responses I've read from posters are against going above and beyond for women..

Scale what back bro? They should go above and beyond. PRINCE HARRY asked his 36+ year old divorced wife who has been nude on national tv to be his wife. He spent tons and tons and tons of time, money and effort to woo her. The Queen of England is jumping up and down he is getting MARRIED.

But sosuave members advise AGAINST such actions. They advise to "SCALE IT BACK." They advise to "AVOID MARRIAGE". They advise to "BE ALPHA" instead. Sosuave knows better than all Royal Princes, Top Doctors, Lawyers, Athletes, Educators, Musicians, Politicians, and PhDs.

Bet if I did a drug test right now, half the guys in here would fail.

Brutal.

 

[sosousage]

Your female friends are right, you should make more of an effort.



Scale what back bro? They should go above and beyond. PRINCE HARRY asked his 36+ year old divorced wife who has been nude on national tv to be his wife. He spent tons and tons and tons of time, money and effort to woo her. The Queen of England is jumping up and down he is getting MARRIED.

But sosuave members advise AGAINST such actions. They advise to "SCALE IT BACK." They advise to "AVOID MARRIAGE". They advise to "BE ALPHA" instead. Sosuave knows better than all Royal Princes, Top Doctors, Lawyers, Athletes, Educators, Musicians, Politicians, and PhDs.

Bet if I did a drug test right now, half the guys in here would fail.

Brutal.

isnt prince harry the prince only because of the family he was born in anyway? and why do you think mainstream authorities are supposed to push redpill that will GREATLY decrease their fame/authority? + they dont really need to care about being beta or not, because they are world authorities.

they could be biggest beta bucks out there but still they are recognizable famous units so they could get laid with any woman anyway, thats a BAD example.

its like with musicians. they push their music. then they get a label so they can reach more people. label tells them to cut singing about stuff undesired by mainstream and forces them to sing about sex (which is popular) and so on. most authorities are dependant on their fans.

 

[RangerMIke]

If a chick likes you what you do doesn't matter as long as you act like a man.

I will say this... I discovered years ago that I would spend more money on chicks that really didn't like me, in a pointless effort to close the deal with them. You end up putting more effort in chicks you really like because we have been conditioned to do this. Putting more effort in a chick that does not really want you is wasted time and effort. The problem is chicks know this and many will play games with you.

But if she is attracted to you, and likes you... time is on your side. You try to make a date... if she plays coy... just walk away. Once she realizes that her games aren't working and she is interested, she will reach out to you and see if you do something. If she isn't interested... no problem... just move on to the next one.

Go ahead and let the guys who think bending over backwards for chicks is what works. Yea it does spoil chicks, but don't worry about it... just keep hitting on girls and play the numbers game. Chicks do not respect men that kiss their @sses.... no respect = no love. The only reason anyone would worry about what other dudes are doing is because they get locked in on one chick.

Offer a gift of your time... if she balks... move onto the next one, the one that balked... if she really likes you... will come around, if she doesn't so the fvck what... all chicks are the same, just go find another one.

 

[zekko]

Scale what back bro? They should go above and beyond. PRINCE HARRY asked his 36+ year old divorced wife who has been nude on national tv to be his wife. He spent tons and tons and tons of time, money and effort to woo her. The Queen of England is jumping up and down he is getting MARRIED.

But sosuave members advise AGAINST such actions. They advise to "SCALE IT BACK." They advise to "AVOID MARRIAGE". They advise to "BE ALPHA" instead. Sosuave knows better than all Royal Princes, Top Doctors, Lawyers, Athletes, Educators, Musicians, Politicians, and PhDs.

One of the problems with marriage is that you risk your assets and become responsible to the state. For mega-rich celebrities, this isn't as much of an issue, because they can afford to lose a large percentage of their wealth and they will still have more than enough left over. They can also afford top legal representation to make sure they don't get divorce raped.

A wealthy celebrity has the resources to have children and hope to start a good family. Although I've never wanted children, I think that wanting to be patriarch of a family is a very worthy goal for a male. It's too bad that modern society has made it such a bad risk for most. This is the sort of thing that will end up collapsing our culture.

 

[LJBFB]

Your female friends are right, you should make more of an effort.

Scale what back bro? They should go above and beyond. PRINCE HARRY asked his 36+ year old divorced wife who has been nude on national tv to be his wife. He spent tons and tons and tons of time, money and effort to woo her. The Queen of England is jumping up and down he is getting MARRIED.

But sosuave members advise AGAINST such actions. They advise to "SCALE IT BACK." They advise to "AVOID MARRIAGE". They advise to "BE ALPHA" instead. Sosuave knows better than all Royal Princes, Top Doctors, Lawyers, Athletes, Educators, Musicians, Politicians, and PhDs.

Bet if I did a drug test right now, half the guys in here would fail.

Brutal.

Can we please ban this "guy" already?

 

[user43770]

Can we please ban this "guy" already?

He's all about pushing some blue-pill thinking, that much is sure.

 

[Macaframalama]

i dont want to debate spoiled women and betas but ill give a quick side note on it. its true, but that isnt the issue you are experiencing.

spoiled women and betas is a non issue. they are doing the work for guys like us. theyre exposing all the crap women (attention wh0res, masculine women, mentally unstable, slvts etc) and make the screening process much easier. not to mention the stark contrast between feminine and masculine men will be more pronounced which is also to our beneift

it may feel like more work to find a girl worthy of commiting to, but the reality is, the stronger your frame, the more you live your life unapologetically like a men, the easier it is for women to submit to your reality and embrace your frame for herself. when your doing things right, women want please you and make you happy.



as far as female dating advice, ive said this before and people ignore me. the real problem with female dating advice, and why you should never take it, is 2 fold

1) chick dating advice always assumes attraction. in other words, when women say things like "just be yoruself" "open up/communicate with her" "dont be such a jerk" "take her out on dates" and all the things you heard, pre supposes a girl already has interest in you. the advice men want is HOW do i increase her interest/attraction for me. what you WONT hear women tell you is "make her jealous" "disqualify her" "ignore her" "make fun of her" etc etc

2) women are driven by their emotions. this is the secret behind why theyre so mercurial. we all know that they seemingly change their minds on a whim. this is why why they sometimes seem "off" and why one week she wants to fvck like a rabbit with you and the next she cant stand you and any little thing will make her cry. anyone thats ever had a girlfriend knows exactly what im talking about. you are hearing advice that isnt coming from a place of logic and reason

women might mean well when giving you advice, but theyre only 50% right 100% of the time

its also why, when we begin to understand them, we are disillusioned, disappointed and think theyre idiots.

This is right on the money. Awesome post.