"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, good book or bad book???

Guitar_Whizz

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Hey guys, I was curious, what is your opinion of the 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus' books? I've read the original, plus another in the series called 'Mars and Venus on a date'.

In my opinion there was some reasonable advice, such as women like it when a man listens to her, but hate it when he tries to give her advice or to 'fix' her problem. But overall I think there are far too many bits of info to remember, and I think if you're with a girl and trying to think of all those bits of advice, it'll just mess your head up and you won't be able to concentrate on having a good time with the girl.

So what are your opinions of this book? AFC or ok???
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you want to read it, read it. What is this business with books being AFC? Wtf?

Go to your local bookstore and skim the book. Just remember a few things: 1) every book written has someone's opinions and perspective... don't take it as a fact. 2) Everything contains bull**** in one form or another.

And forget about all that crap about dating and so forth. Be yourself. Don't worry about it. Listen to your insticts after all YOU'RE A MAN GODDAMNIT. Now grab your instincts.

If it doesnt work out, it either wasn't meant to be or yourself is really not up to par. Work on it.
 

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In the DJ Bible, Pook describes MenMars/WomenVenus book as being very helpful *IF* you are in a serious relationship where the woman is interested in you but is useless if you're not because if a woman doesn't like you "that much" whatever you do will not make much sense to her as she doesn't feel obligated to reciprocate as you wish.

So overall is it useful? It helps being aware of how women think but it won't increase any attraction of how a woman thinks of you.
 

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This is a book written for married couples.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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