"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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CJE666

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I'm 21, consider myself charming, funny and confident, but alas at 21, I am still a virgin. My towns population mainly consists of old people and high school kids. The people my age are all in cliques, and my social circle has 0 women in it. I work almost everyday to pay for my house/bills, and both jobs I either work with all guys or by myself. Going downtown there are many girls, but its extremly expensive (I live in vancouver which is one of the most pricey places in North America) so I dont get to go there very much due to bills.

I write sports articles/poetry, an aspiring poker player and do lots of physical activity to keep me happy, but at times I feel that loneliness and it tears me up inside. Does anyone have some good suggestions?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Mantis Toboggan

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Well, the women are not going to come to you anymore than fish are going to jump into a fisherman's boat. You have to put yourself out there. Hobbies. Clubs. If you're tired of small town life, then maybe its time to move to a city...you're 21. If your town is really that small, and your social circle is really that lame, then meeting new friends is just as important as meeting new women.

Expand your social circle. Do more things. Meet more people. I dont know your town or your finances...but whether you're rich or poor, thats the path. You can either take it or you can stay where you are.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Well, the women are not going to come to you anymore than fish are going to jump into a fisherman's boat. You have to put yourself out there. Hobbies. Clubs. If you're tired of small town life, then maybe its time to move to a city...you're 21. If your town is really that small, and your social circle is really that lame, then meeting new friends is just as important as meeting new women.

Expand your social circle. Do more things. Meet more people. I dont know your town or your finances...but whether you're rich or poor, thats the path. You can either take it or you can stay where you are.

Most of these dudes complaining don't want to put in actual work to improve their situations let alone intenalize advice. They prefer to just complain about things while passing 'alone' time and blowing off steam.
 

CJE666

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Naughty Ninja said:
Most of these dudes complaining don't want to put in actual work to improve their situations let alone intenalize advice. They prefer to just complain about things while passing 'alone' time and blowing off steam.
Im sorry if i come off as a complainer, im just frustrated, and at 21 with no sex who wouldn't be. I want to put in the work, thats how i found out about this site and why i joined the forums. Im just looking for a step in the right direction.
 

TonyBaloney

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Fair play to you CJE 666.

I think th point naughty is making, is that we have to work hard as DJs/womanisers. Consider it as a job of work to get the poon.

It only falls into the lap, without work, of people like rock god Mick Jagger ;)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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