"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Meeting in an elevator, what's a good approach?

underwarez

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On occasion, I would be in an elevator with a lady who works on a different floor from me. I want to start talking with her, but I have no idea what to say.

I'm not interested in her as a potential date. I want to know her as an acquiantance (maybe someone who can hook me up with someone in the future).

Anyhow, what can I say to start up a conversation with her? Please give me examples of what to say, not suggestions.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Doppler4000

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There's no magic words... just make an observation about the day, the weather, how you can't wait for the weekend, how bad the elevator music is... the important part is how she responds. Do you get a polite one word answer or does she offer up something more in return? Ideally at the end you'd introduce yourself and find out a little something about her, but the elevator time frame is pretty short. Maybe you'd have more luck in the cafeteria.
 

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I've talked to girls at the coffee mess (similar time crunch as in the elevator) and said "Hi I think I've seen you around before but don't know your name..." You kindof gauge how interested she is in chatting from the way she responds, if everything's good and she wants to make smalltalk for an extra minute, slip in a couple jokes so she knows you're cool to talk with and you can open up a conversation with her next time you see her and take it from there. But that's just what worked for me.
 

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Find an excuse to "accidentally" bump her without of course knocking her down or hurting her, then smile and apologize, then say something about her looking familiar.
 

Vegas Playa

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Let's not forget that you don't have to "accidentally" do anything. You don't need a pretense to talk to a woman.

I'm all for creative approaches, but if you can't come up with anything else in the moment you can at least say, "Hey, what's up. Are you single? I want to talk with you sometime. What's your e-mail?"

By the way, what did playasupreme do to get banned from this hizzy?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Reto

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I'm in that situation and here's what I've done. Not that it's led to anything...

I push floor 4, she, floor 6.

"So, what's on the sixth floor?" She proceeds to tell me..."Really? You like working for XYZ?..." my floor arrrives...

One day she got on and had a Waffle House Coffee in her hand.
"Hello...... Waffle House? God, I've ended many a late saturday nights there..." She giggles...

This is just in the last week to 10 days...We'll see what happens...
 
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