"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've read a few posts where people suggested against it, but decided to see what kind of advice I could get.

I did do a quick search, but didn't find exactly the results I was looking for..hopefully I won't get flamed..

Anyways, I recently got a myspace account. What I'm wondering, is, after I see a girl that I might be interested in, how would I go about talking to her?

I have tried a few diffrent 'approaches'. One, was that I stated that I thought I knew the girl from somewhere, or that she looked famialiar, and tried to have a conversation from there..hopeing that with a few more posts I can have a quick chat on AIM and get a phone number. This sort of worked...but typically the conversation died after a few replies back and fourth..

Another, was that I messaged a girl saying "you look like you'd make a nice friend
IM me sometime (my screen name)"

This girl never got back to me..I was expecting she would more be like 'hey..i wonder why this guy isnt telling me im hot and asking for my number..why would he just want a friend?'

I know that talking online is diffrent, because you don't have any kind of tone in your voice or facial expressions..but I'm just looking for what to say that would make an interesting starter conversation (online), that could lead to getting a number.

I do talk to girls in person, the internet is not my way of getting girls..i just figured if i could meet more girls that live near by..why not.

Any advice and/or examples would be great.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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search for "online" "personals" "match.com" or somethin like that here.


Also have you really used up all your resources locally? Cold approach more women man. things move too slow over the internet, people arent readily availiable and you dont even know who you are talking to or how she looks IRL
 

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Microphone Fiend said:
search for "online" "personals" "match.com" or somethin like that here.


Also have you really used up all your resources locally? Cold approach more women man. things move too slow over the internet, people arent readily availiable and you dont even know who you are talking to or how she looks IRL
thanks for the reply

I haven't really..i should probably go out to the mall and places like that, which I do plan on doing. My problem is that I don't really have too many friends outside of school (and im graduating in 17 days..)..so anywhere I'd go, i'd be alone...

I just really finished reading double your dating, and am trying to change my life for the better. My story is that i recently broke up with my gf of a year and a half, and am trying to get out on my own and have some fun and meet some people (more specifically, girls).
 

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coo. Nice to know that you are turning things around. Maybe the bootcamp is a good idea for you?

ANyways as for the internet thing, most people I see do it because they are scared sh!tless of cold aproaching, and so they get great at talkin to girls on the net, but they get face to face and because they havent been talking to girls other than in front of a computer screen they fumble the pvssy.

As for going out solo, most people do. Its like:
-when you start off you dont want people to see you do it
-when you get better your friends can hold you back

I go solo all the time, im still at stage 1 of it for the most part, but heck, just approaching chicks outdoes my friends unless they are sh!tfaced. Just hit the field as much as you can, talk to everyone. I have a job in retail and it could change my life. I am forced to talk to people if i want to make money and it really motivates me.
 
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