"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
War Against Betaism
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HandyAndy said:
start approaching girls, start working out, start being confident, start reading the HS bible. popularity will come. girls that never noticed u existed will start to see your improvements and draw to you. have relationships with the hot girls only and keep the average looking ones around to fvck.
once u do this people will forget about the old you so dont let the old you hold you back from rising the fvck up.
Crazy Asian
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I still have approaching troubles, like I dont know what to say.smooth guy
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Stay fit and be confident, go to school with the urge to meet new people and a lot of girls. Naturally I'm pretty known in my school and that is because I can talk to anyone, but that comes to me naturally. Approaching in school can't be very difficult since there are a lot of reasons why you would want to approach somebody. All you gotta do is talk to people. When people see that you're a sociable guy they'll get to know you.. by the time summer is back you'll make tons of friends. Same tactic goes for girls.
Join the football or the basketball team. Just join any group so you can find people that share the same interest or sport with you. Thats also another great way to make friends. I have a few friends in the football team of my school, its really great how they're all connected to each other.
War Against Betaism
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Doesn't seem like you know a lot about making friends.mpimpin said:
Obviously not in that context.Crazy Asian said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
pooparu
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Go into school, if you are a freshmen, even better, walk up to the first person you see and start talking. I say its better if you are a freshmen because either:
1. You are all gonna be new in a big school.
2. You have been in the school for a while (like a 6-12 school) and you can easily make friends with the new people.
3. You are new, in a school where alot of people know each other. This seems bad, but all the schools I've changed to are like this, and I make friends ASAP. Most people ALWAYS ask, "Hey are you new" if you look friendly/cool enough to talk to (which isn't hard, as long as you aren't hideous).
Get some clothes that make you look nice (not nice lookings clothes, everyone has a style that works for them), get your hair cut, look fresh as possible (you don't have to be jacked to be fresh. I've got a friend who gets a lot of ***** and he's not jacked at all), and just keep a smile on and kick back and relax like you own the place. People will wanna know who the **** this newcomer thinks he is trying to own their place, or why they haven't noticed some kid like you, and from their you can suck them into your world. It's not something that should be thought about, just react.
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PERFECT advice!pooparu said:
Plec07
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Mpimpin have a read through some of Ross Jefferies' stuff and you'll find that copying breathing speed, mimicing hand jestures that people use when you repeat the same word they used, talking at same voice level and tone (not pitch), and sitting in similar positions (eg. resting hand on knee) are all ways of building rapport through the target's subconcious.mpimpin said:
And to anybody thinking this is utter Bullsh*t it's been proven by psychologysts and is a trick Darren Brown regularly uses on his tv shows if you wish to see it done to perfection from a spectator's view look up something by him on youtube.