"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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me and girl broke up. but it's cool.

chance

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i just had one of the weirdest moments of my life. she was 16 and a virgin. we almost had sex. but it was too soon for her. have a read...

*** = our names

[04:02:53 PM] HER: hi
[04:02:56 PM] HER: i uhm, need to talk to u
[04:03:11 PM] ME: hey
[04:03:14 PM] ME: go for it
[04:03:59 PM] HER: ok, well i dont know a way to say this, other than
being blunt, but i cant see you anymore
[04:04:12 PM] ME: i know.
[04:04:21 PM] ME: and it's okay.
[04:04:34 PM] HER: well rnt u mr phsycic
[04:04:40 PM] HER: it is?
[04:04:44 PM] ME: was getting obvious
[04:04:51 PM] ME: what happened anyway
[04:05:14 PM] HER: nothing rly...i just dont rly want a relationship
[04:05:34 PM] ME: come on ***. is that really the whole reason.
[04:05:35 PM] ME: :)
[04:06:34 PM] HER: uh, only small things i spose, just the whole age
difference, butpretty much coz i dont want to be involved
[04:06:41 PM] HER: i dont have a proper reason
[04:07:20 PM] ME: it seemed different when we were together. now you just dont want to be in a relationship? just like that?
[04:08:04 PM] HER: alot of it was physical ***, i dont have any other
feelings
[04:08:26 PM] ME: has this got anything to do with your mom?
[04:08:52 PM] HER: no, nothing to do with mom. in fact she told me that it was stupid now, consider u met her
[04:09:21 PM] ME: alright. fair enough.
[04:09:24 PM] ME: i have to admit.
[04:09:40 PM] ME: it wasn't going to be long term. the age thing is something that does change the whole thing
[04:09:56 PM] ME: but all the hanging out, i enjoyed it
[04:10:08 PM] HER: me to :)
[04:10:49 PM] ME: well im glad you told me this.
[04:11:42 PM] HER: i didn't know how or if i could, but i didn't want to keep going with it, if it wasn't going anywhere, but like u said, ive had fun aswel
[04:12:24 PM] ME: it's not our fault i guess. there was no chemistry
[04:13:36 PM] * HER is now Away (idle)
[04:13:45 PM] * HER is now Online
[04:14:05 PM] HER nods
[04:14:46 PM] ME: you started thinkin about this the night i left yeah?
[04:14:57 PM] HER: yeah
[04:15:15 PM] HER: and its done my head in since :S
[04:15:21 PM] ME: woulda been worse i guess if we kept lying ourself into it
[04:15:49 PM] HER: yeah thats tru maybe. I duno if i could have tried
it more tho
[04:16:17 PM] ME: its my fault really
[04:16:33 PM] ME: i knew you were young and i was chasing ya. but you were making me chase!
[04:16:49 PM] HER: why
[04:16:57 PM] HER: lol
[04:17:01 PM] ME: lets just say
[04:17:16 PM] ME: i kept thinking you were my age.
[04:17:29 PM] HER: i dunno if thats a good or bad thing
[04:17:34 PM] ME: its good.
[04:17:40 PM] HER: okay :)
[04:17:41 PM] ME: you're a mature gal for your age thats good
[04:17:56 PM] HER: well, i hope its good lol
[04:18:05 PM] ME: this is weird isnt it
[04:18:38 PM] HER: yes
[04:18:49 PM] ME: i guess we learnt something though. it wasn't anything bad
04:19:41 PM] HER: yeah, so...we're still cool? :D
[04:19:51 PM] ME: of course.
[04:20:02 PM] ME: im not gona get all angry and stop talking
[04:20:06 PM] ME: we were always friends.
[04:20:34 PM] HER: good :D
[04:21:15 PM] HER: ah i shouldn't have stressed over this so much
[04:21:29 PM] ME: lol
[04:21:44 PM] ME: what do you think it was mostly for you though
[04:21:46 PM] ME: the age thing?
[04:21:58 PM] HER: yes
[04:22:07 PM] HER: even if u didn't seem that much older
[04:22:10 PM] ME: deep down. they rarely work
[04:22:15 PM] ME: so you're right there
[04:22:21 PM] HER: as r u
[04:22:43 PM] ME: i felt we were more on the friends side too
[04:22:54 PM] ME: and it was gona stay like that
[04:23:26 PM] HER: yeah
[04:23:39 PM] HER: well, better to know it
[04:24:30 PM] ME: not many people end relationships like this lol
[04:24:37 PM] ME: i think we did good
[04:24:57 PM] HER: lol well im thankful it was like this
[04:25:25 PM] ME: i knew you were gonna say it lol
[04:25:58 PM] ME: does anyone else know about this?
[04:26:26 PM] HER: not rly. . .
[04:26:40 PM] ME: i bet your mom will be happy.
[04:26:47 PM] HER shrugs
[04:26:49 PM] HER: she might
[04:26:54 PM] HER: i dont care if shes happy or not heh
[04:27:09 PM] ME: so are you okay ***?
[04:27:18 PM] ME: with what happened just now
[04:27:28 PM] HER: yeah im alright
[04:27:31 PM] HER: :)
[04:27:35 PM] ME: :)
[04:27:47 PM] HER: lol yes, this is still a little weird
[04:27:56 PM] ME: yeah i feel a bit weird too
[04:28:43 PM] HER: but hey, its all good, and ill talk to u later ok, i got my mum telling me im spose to be doing homework >:|
[04:28:54 PM] ME: haha
[04:28:57 PM] ME: okay :)
[04:29:01 PM] ME: talk soon ***
[04:29:17 PM] HER: alright, catch ya later *** :)
[04:29:27 PM] * HER is now Offline

so there you have it. a nice break up. and i'm kinda glad. i know why too. i knew i didn't really want to be with her. it never felt right. we did have our cuddles and kisses but there was never love. no chemistry. i want love and i want long term. i knew it wasn't going to work out. so yes, in a way i'm glad this happened. we're still friends too. so it's all good. just thought i'd share that with you guys.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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IRONMAN22

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wat the age difference 1st and 2nd is there any reason that you posted other than to get some attention for people to feel sorry for you :eek: . be a MAN OF ACTION :up:
 

JonJack

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The most important thing to note is that the two of you enjoyed yourself while it lasted. Usually when people break up, that's not what they think about. It is rare too that both parties will feel that way.
 

MacDiddy

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I know its hard to avoid being curious as to why why why!!!

but its better not knowing the reason, because truthfully, they will never give you the real reason.. or anything that can possible come close... but they wont get closure unless they are able to give you their pathetic reasons... which is why I don't give them a chance...

Its just one of those anomolies in relationships.... I've learnt to move on faster than you can say "flynn"
 

zerocelcius

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she is 16!!!!

Dating with Disaster.

Hay-Suess man you can go to Jail for that kinda ****e!!!!!

Good for you for having a great break up but slap your self for getting with an infant.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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frivolousz21

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do you live in the United States?


if you are 21 yrs old and she is 16 in the USA...you live in completely diff worlds..its like dating a kid.
 

chance

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no i don't live in the usa. it's legal where i am. and the age thing didn't bother me as she was mature and it felt like i was seeing someone my age. but yeah, didn't really work out after all anyway.
 
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