"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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me against internet dating.

Leuven

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hi,

First of all, I don't like internet dating. MOst girls pretend to be someone else ( in fact just as we do ). Since I have a job which is heavy computer related, I don't go often on a pc when I'm home, or on the internet.

Last month, I went to an internet chatroom, first time in let's say 6 months. It was raining and I was bored.

Met this girl, she was 20 and student. gave her my msn adress and talked
for about 2 hours. Everything went well and she seems like a very funny and nice person. Saw a picture, she was not very hot but not ugly ( 6.5/10 ).
after 2 hours I told her I should go, and she gave me her mobile number. I gave mine in return, but forget about her. That night she send me a message that she really liked talking to me and wonders how I would be in real life.

Told me she had had a relationship of 2 years, but is now 6 months single.
She would like to meet me.
I was like, why not, I've got nothing to lose, besides she wanted to come over to my town with the train. Something that stoke my feelings was that she was very supplicating/needy.

- she always first sends messages
- she wanted to meet me and asked for a date
- she would come over to me

The day of the meeting.

When I saw her, she was kind, not really pretty, but that doesn't matter. I had made up my mind that I won't really go for her because of the distance we live ( 80km / 50 miles ).
we talked a little, then she told me she has already stolen things, has a drug related past and her brother is in jail.
I was like WTF, next her!

Moral of this story, never trust anyone based on internet alone.

sincerely
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Wiesman44

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How does trust have to do with this ?

You just said immediately when you met, she told you about the bad things she's done. Where's the broken trust ?

I dont get it. I can see why you wouldn't like her because of her past, but i dont understand why trust is the moral of the story.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Wiesman44 said:
How does trust have to do with this ?

You just said immediately when you met, she told you about the bad things she's done. Where's the broken trust ?

I dont get it. I can see why you wouldn't like her because of her past, but i dont understand why trust is the moral of the story.
I was wondering the same thing.
 

vazeh

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you cant base it off one incident. ive never come accross a situation like that but i know it happens. you next and then find somone else. thats it
 

S1NN3R

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Yeah, I can't really see how this is an arguement against internet dating either. Or having anything to do with trust. She told you on your first date about things than many girls wouldn't tell you until you found out on your own. What did you expect her to do? Put it down as her advert header? My guess would be that sh'e just doesn't tell anyone and everyone about it just for the sake of telling them, but rather keeps it for people that she feels might need to know for any reason. In my mind, her telling you represented great trust on her part towards you, and you're bagging on her just because she didn't tell you first thing.

How silly.....
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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DJHoolahoop

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You guys should know by now that this happens online and offline in one form or another.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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DJHoolahoop said:
You guys should know by now that this happens online and offline in one form or another.
You would think that they would but it's easier to lay fault with the system rather than having any ownership in it yourself.
 
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