"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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May have encountered a BPD

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A lot of guys here have written about being infatuated with BPD girls, and how they are so passionate, sexy, and desirable - before they screw you over. Now I have known numerous women who had an official diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder, and I have never found any of them the least bit desirable - too fvcked in the head for me.

Anyway, here's a story. I was out running errands yesterday and I went into a store. There was a girl in there that I saw - she had the kind of body type I liked and she also had a rather obvious red hair dye job. She was with some dude, probably her boyfriend. She must have noticed me checking her out, because she started showing off for me, kind of prancing and dancing around, moving her body while smiling and looking directly at me.

Now I was in a very good mood yesterday, and I just kind of watched her without expression like looking at the television or a circus animal, and went about my business. When I went up to check out she and her boyfriend had just walked out, and the cashier told me she had stolen something - apparently she noticed it right after she left.

I thought "Wow, what a messed up chick". It occurred to me that maybe she was BPD - She did have a certain raw sexual vibe that sent the message "Yeah, get me out of here and I would do anything". Maybe this was the kind of girl they are always talking about here on the forum. I could see how that might appeal to someone without much experience, or simply someone with different taste. I don't find aggressive women appealing. Besides, I have a girlfriend.

But there was definitely something wrong with that girl. If she wasn't BPD she was bipolar.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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A lot of guys here have written about being infatuated with BPD girls, and how they are so passionate, sexy, and desirable - before they screw you over. Now I have known numerous women who had an official diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder, and I have never found any of them the least bit desirable - too fvcked in the head for me.

Anyway, here's a story. I was out running errands yesterday and I went into a store. There was a girl in there that I saw - she had the kind of body type I liked and she also had a rather obvious red hair dye job. She was with some dude, probably her boyfriend. She must have noticed me checking her out, because she started showing off for me, kind of prancing and dancing around, moving her body while smiling and looking directly at me.

Now I was in a very good mood yesterday, and I just kind of watched her without expression like looking at the television or a circus animal, and went about my business. When I went up to check out she and her boyfriend had just walked out, and the cashier told me she had stolen something - apparently she noticed it right after she left.

I thought "Wow, what a messed up chick". It occurred to me that maybe she was BPD - She did have a certain raw sexual vibe that sent the message "Yeah, get me out of here and I would do anything". Maybe this was the kind of girl they are always talking about here on the forum. I could see how that might appeal to someone without much experience, or simply someone with different taste. I don't find aggressive women appealing. Besides, I have a girlfriend.

But there was definitely something wrong with that girl. If she wasn't BPD she was bipolar.
Just because she's good looking and had a sexual vibe you think she was a bpd? I think you're jumping to conclusions.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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We have a long history, but I haven't talked to her in a year, and don't want to.

BPDs are a lot like teenage girls in that when they discover something they like, they LOVE it. It's the most amazing sh!t in the world, whatever it is....until they get bored of it and move on. Hair color is an expression of that trait of BPD.
 

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We have a long history, but I haven't talked to her in a year, and don't want to.

BPDs are a lot like teenage girls in that when they discover something they like, they LOVE it. It's the most amazing sh!t in the world, whatever it is....until they get bored of it and move on. Hair color is an expression of that trait of BPD.
I'll admit that it's not an area that I'm 100% schooled in. I'm sure if I started reading up on it
more a lot of ex's behaviors would make sense. But I'm not sure if I care too much about their actions
making sense....

That being said my main plate right now is a black girl and she likes to color her hair.....
sometimes red...-.......I just take the piss out of her. But your post about hair color made me
raise an eyebrow.....
 

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Just because she's good looking and had a sexual vibe you think she was a bpd? I think you're jumping to conclusions.
Did you read my post? Aside from her behavior toward me while she was with another guy, she stole something from the store on the way out. Maybe she wasn't BPD, but there was definitely something wrong with her.
 

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Did you read my post? Aside from her behavior toward me while she was with another guy, she stole something from the store on the way out. Maybe she wasn't BPD, but there was definitely something wrong with her.
Yeah, there is. She's a thief.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Something wrong, definitely.

BPD, not nearly enough evidence. Single or few interactions do not present the possibility of determining BPD. BPD can only be established in an actual relationship, unless you've been bitten. If you carry the scars, you can recognize BPD in a heartbeat. Prior to that, it's almost impossible for a man to recognize it.

For BPD to manifest she must have time enough and personal investment enough for the cycles to take place. It only really manifests fully one-on-one, although as I said once you've had your soul nearly sucked out of you by one of these vampires you obtain an instinct for identifying the traits almost immediately.
 

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For BPD to manifest she must have time enough and personal investment enough for the cycles to take place. It only really manifests fully one-on-one
I have no idea if the woman was BPD, as the subject line says, I MAY have encountered a BPD. However, the more I think about it, the more I think her actions were more consistent with being bipolar. I have known several close personal friends with bipolar disorder.

Regarding BPD women however, I have known women who were officially diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, and those women were profoundly ill. In those cases, you definitely did not have to wait for one to one relationships for it to manifest, because these women would stir up drama and/or self injure on a fairly regular basis. If guys on this forum have known BPD women, I imagine those cases must not have been as severe as I have known, or they would not have thought they were so sexy and desirable.
 
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