"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Maxim Magazine advice on dating and age.

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Better to be CALLED a "dirty old man" because you date far younger aged women than to KNOW inside that you are a "warped, FRUSTRATED, old man" because you're stuck with the WRONG woman----of ANY age.
 

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JustDoItAlways said:
The age rule is usually take your age divide by 2 and add 7 (not 9).

This rule goes way back to before biblical times.
Yup. Add 7. You beat me to it.
 

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I say go by one rule; if she's 18 or older, she's game! (provide that is the age of consent in your state). If you're younger than 18, then why are you in the mature forum? ;-)

Hmm, this does make me wonder, is the age of consent 18 in all US states? Does anyone have a link to this broken down by states if its not 18 for all states?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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shadowfox said:
Wow thats an interesting formula I take my age 17/2 =8.5 then add 9 and i need to be looking at girls 1/2 a year older than me, 17.5??? Ok sounds cool.
Something else that's interesting is if you take your age, and consider the rules for this forum, that = you shouldn't be posting here.
 

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all of those magazine subscriptions like Maxim and Stuff are all written by virgins. Why do you think they give such s****y advice on girls??? What do they know about women? They don't know what it's like to make the sexy-time fun with a woman.
 

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My personal rule of thumb was always that for anything serious the normalized age difference would be a woman 10 years younger. Basically I think guys should date women who are on average 10 years younger, but that's just a starting point, not a hard rule for me.

All I'm saying is that if you're dating someone your age, she's probably too old for you. Counter to the popular wisdom, but true I think.

This new "equation" actually works better as a baseline average target maybe, but using it (or any other rule) as a hard limit is just dumb. Using it as a softer sort of guideline might make more sense, for example a 40 year old guy should date women who are around 29, maybe say 24 - 34. When you use it that way it starts to almost work.

But trying to distill something as personal as human relationships into a simple formula is intrinsically bound to failure.
 

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Zhit, I'm gonna have to get rid of the 22 year old baby girl I am seeing.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Its just some maths.. You dont have to do that, but it might be helpful sometimes.. Not that You have to drop girls that You are attracted too, but You may know some are too young for relatio and good just for other stuff.. I think thats what was meant here.
 
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It is plus 7 years- but it really doesn't matter!!! Get the youngest woman possible as allowed by law in your province/state!!!! The feminist hors hate this because they are out of the market and cannot compete with fresh meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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The only real PROBLEM I have found with dating far younger women, say---about 16 years younger, is that I have a hard time trying to find some common grounds of relate-ability with them OUTSIDE of the bedroom.

But then again, even with women closer to my age, it is STILL quite a task forming a more HOLISTIC type of relationship with them. Communication IS key, but if I have very little in common with them as people, then my battle is always an UPHILL one.

So, when it's all said and done, I STILL prefer younger women because the odds are still BARELY in my favor of finding one who is not TOTALLY poisoned by the hurts of all the stuff she's gone through with the past dudes she's dealt with.

Oh, and the younger women are USUALLY more physically attractive too-----probably because they have not GIVEN UP like far too many women in their mid-to-late thirties and early forties...

And I don't mean to be HARSH about that, but I SEE this phenomena happening all the time where I live.
 

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Maxim is only good for something to look at on the toilet. If that piece of crap mag would concentrate more on how to date girls who are half your age then it would be worth more. If you are middle aged and dating 19yo hotties then the only judgements you will have to face are from men who are jealous of you and women who are jealous of her. :p This is the drawback you must face and it is unavoidable and will never change. But only a lesser man would look to some meaningless algorithm to find out if it's "ok" to date a female.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DoubleA said:
most older women are threatened by younger ones for male companionship...:
- AA
I totally disagree. Most "older" women are more confident and less threatened. Wow, do you really think so?
 

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It's the situation and the people that matter, not the numbers.
 
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