"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mature Women, Online Dating, etc.

HKgunslinger

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OK, I'm a member (paid) at Yahoo Personals, WAS a paid member at Match.com.

On Yahoo:

I'm 22, good looking, c&F by nature, etc. I incorporate that into my profile. I mostly email women 30 and up, literally about one in 20 will even respond with even a "Sorry, age difference is too great" I cover that in my emails to them already. I also include my email address (yes they can read it on YP).

What am I doing wrong? Are most of these women needy-types looking for LTR? 28-45 is my target group, they have to be cute of course.

Out of about 100 emails sent, ONE has turned out ANYTHING for me, a super-cute 43 year old BABE, and that is truly thanks to Yahoo's IM, I saw her online (they'll list that in the profiles) and chatted with her a little. Now she's eating out of my hand.

I'm thinking of ditching Online Dating altogether, not worth my time really, I get literally 50 or so times better luck IRL, with real life you can create chemistry and look her in the eye.

PS -Match is almost total trash, if the girl at the other end isn't a paid member, you might as well forget it. Out of about 75 emails on there, NO REPLIES WHATSOEVER. At $30 a month to just reply, I don't hardly blame them. Oh I DID get about 6 winks on there in a month, some were pretty good-lloking too, but 18-20, too young for my taste.

'Slinger
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Mojo604

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What tha ****, man... whats with the old chicks? They dont want nothing with yound dudes... unless its a one-nighter, which 99%of those women online do not want.
 

HKgunslinger

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You could be right. But women hit their horniest at 35 or so, plus the conversation is better and they play less head-games, believe me I know my way around head-games but it's nice to talk to someone who's not immature. I just say on there I'm looking for friends and most of their profiles say the same thing. You don't go online looking for a quick lay, you talk with someone and if you like them maybe you can meet IRL and have some food together. That's the way it works IRL anyway.

'Slinger
 

MrHarris

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There is nothing wrong with dating older women at your age.

1. they have better jobs
2. they can buy you better gifts
3. they love the attention of younger men and to them it's hot and saucy
4. they can be very generous with younger men
5. the sex is so much better cause they have experience
6. less drama and flakeyness of younger chicks

and the benefits go on and on....

Keep it up!
 

sapphire

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Originally posted by HKgunslinger
OK, I'm a member (paid) at Yahoo Personals, WAS a paid member at Match.com.

On Yahoo:

I'm 22, good looking, c&F by nature, etc. I incorporate that into my profile. I mostly email women 30 and up, literally about one in 20 will even respond with even a "Sorry, age difference is too great" I cover that in my emails to them already. I also include my email address (yes they can read it on YP).

What am I doing wrong? Are most of these women needy-types looking for LTR? 28-45 is my target group, they have to be cute of course.

Out of about 100 emails sent, ONE has turned out ANYTHING for me, a super-cute 43 year old BABE, and that is truly thanks to Yahoo's IM, I saw her online (they'll list that in the profiles) and chatted with her a little. Now she's eating out of my hand.

I'm thinking of ditching Online Dating altogether, not worth my time really, I get literally 50 or so times better luck IRL, with real life you can create chemistry and look her in the eye.

PS -Match is almost total trash, if the girl at the other end isn't a paid member, you might as well forget it. Out of about 75 emails on there, NO REPLIES WHATSOEVER. At $30 a month to just reply, I don't hardly blame them. Oh I DID get about 6 winks on there in a month, some were pretty good-lloking too, but 18-20, too young for my taste.

I am pretty much in the same boat and on the verge of giving up online dating altogether.

I have been on match.com for almost 4 months now and I have been quite disappointed in the quality of the women. I am 35, quite good looking and have gotten many e-mails, winks, etc. from quite a few women. But either they ultimately flake or when they do show up they are usually 20-30 lbs heavier than what their pictures depict or look quite older.

Just yesterday, I had a date. The woman shows up at my house and she looks like 15 years older and is 4-5inches shorter than what her picture and profile portrayed. I am not attracted to her at all so I end the date hastily.

The funny thing is that these women make themselves to be someone that they are not and think that they can get away with it. It is kind of insulting when they show up and they look quite different than what they descibed themselves to be.

I can say that I only met several girls that meet my minimal requirements for physical appearance. One was actually very attractive and she ended up at my house for the night. Other than that, not a good experience.

After this brief experiment, I realize that I do much better meeting women IRL.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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WaterTiger

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Match.com SUCKS!!!! You think the women are losers? Take a look at the other side of the board & look at the men! JEEEEEZE What a magnificent collection of losers!
 
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