Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Mature women and scams

MaddXMan

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Since I've stepped my dating life in the past several months I've encountered mature, stable career women who seem to get sucked in by scams. 3 so far. Once was selling MonaVie, another One24, now my date tonight tells me about this great thing shes doing called Visalus.

I'm disappointed whenever I learn someone is involved in a pyramid scheme because they always hint around for me to look into it.

Now I have a date tonight that I was really looking forward to, but she's probably going to bring up this exciting new opportunity she's into - and she's a friggin accountant and makes good money, and is skinny, so why get on board with some weight loss scam?

Kinda dampered it a bit. Not sure what to do if she starts talking about it. Don't want to encourage more by being polite and just listening. What should I do, change the subject??
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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scrouds

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"what is this a sales pitch or a date?"
"I'll take 20! [change topic]"
"Are you trying to tell me I look fat?" (if she's droning on about weight loss products)
"Do you do those sex toy parties too?" - good option to reframe the drone into sexuality.
Start selling her a bridge you just happen to have for sale.
If its a drink, ask her if it contains soylent green

Hope this gives you some ideas.
 

AW1983

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scrouds said:
"what is this a sales pitch or a date?"
"I'll take 20! [change topic]"
"Are you trying to tell me I look fat?" (if she's droning on about weight loss products)
"Do you do those sex toy parties too?" - good option to reframe the drone into sexuality.
Start selling her a bridge you just happen to have for sale.
If its a drink, ask her if it contains soylent green

Hope this gives you some ideas.
Haha, repped dude, that is golden. Reminds me to be thinking in constant reframe mode in any sub par situation.
 

backbreaker

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my mother is in Amway and is semi retired because of it. if push came to shove i am pretty sure she could quit working though she could not live her current lifestyle. my mom travels more than anyone i have ever seen today.

but she's been at that since i was in elementary school.
 

Greasy Pig

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Awesome, scrouds. Words to live and fvck by. :)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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