"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mature women and scams

MaddXMan

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Since I've stepped my dating life in the past several months I've encountered mature, stable career women who seem to get sucked in by scams. 3 so far. Once was selling MonaVie, another One24, now my date tonight tells me about this great thing shes doing called Visalus.

I'm disappointed whenever I learn someone is involved in a pyramid scheme because they always hint around for me to look into it.

Now I have a date tonight that I was really looking forward to, but she's probably going to bring up this exciting new opportunity she's into - and she's a friggin accountant and makes good money, and is skinny, so why get on board with some weight loss scam?

Kinda dampered it a bit. Not sure what to do if she starts talking about it. Don't want to encourage more by being polite and just listening. What should I do, change the subject??
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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scrouds

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"what is this a sales pitch or a date?"
"I'll take 20! [change topic]"
"Are you trying to tell me I look fat?" (if she's droning on about weight loss products)
"Do you do those sex toy parties too?" - good option to reframe the drone into sexuality.
Start selling her a bridge you just happen to have for sale.
If its a drink, ask her if it contains soylent green

Hope this gives you some ideas.
 

AW1983

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scrouds said:
"what is this a sales pitch or a date?"
"I'll take 20! [change topic]"
"Are you trying to tell me I look fat?" (if she's droning on about weight loss products)
"Do you do those sex toy parties too?" - good option to reframe the drone into sexuality.
Start selling her a bridge you just happen to have for sale.
If its a drink, ask her if it contains soylent green

Hope this gives you some ideas.
Haha, repped dude, that is golden. Reminds me to be thinking in constant reframe mode in any sub par situation.
 

backbreaker

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my mother is in Amway and is semi retired because of it. if push came to shove i am pretty sure she could quit working though she could not live her current lifestyle. my mom travels more than anyone i have ever seen today.

but she's been at that since i was in elementary school.
 

Greasy Pig

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Awesome, scrouds. Words to live and fvck by. :)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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