"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Married women

are married women easier or more difficult to bed

  • Easy

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • difficult

    Votes: 7 58.3%

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bluemanson

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Just a question.
Do you guys think that married women are easier or more difficult to woo

Just a question
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Depends on whether they're happily married or not.
 

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Its a very easy question.

First answer, based on numbers alone, they are harder to game because the majority are not openly on the market and their mind isn't in search mode.

Second answer, if you come across a women thats showing signs, then she's likely easier to game because she's probably searching and on the market. Which makes it easier to game than the typical women who may or may not be on the market.

So to answer your question, it all depends if she's looking for a side piece or not.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Its a very easy question.

First answer, based on numbers alone, they are harder to game because the majority are not openly on the market and their mind isn't in search mode.

Second answer, if you come across a women thats showing signs, then she's likely easier to game because she's probably searching and on the market. Which makes it easier to game than the typical women who may or may not be on the market.

So to answer your question, it all depends if she's looking for a side piece or not.
i have to disagree.. i think that married women may be easer simply because MOST married women are not saturated with single men at bars/clubs/etc. and when they are they appreciate the attention (in some cases).

single women have their pick from the crowd. the married women IMO more than likely "appreciates" the attention more
 

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You might be right Daven. I'm not sure, I don't think I've ever banged a married women so I was theorizing I guess. I wouldn't have any qualms about banging a married women, I've just never come across a married women that threw herself at me.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Depends. I really mostly only try for married ones or those with a serious bf. If I find out a girl is single I usually leave her alone because I don't want any drama.. unless I know for sure the woman is just wanting to get dirty, I steer totally clear of them. That probably makes me ill-advised on the matter.
 

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If they are stepping out, they are easier. The agenda is clear to all.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Depends on whether they're happily married or not.
And depends on how long they have been married... ie. newly weds are hard to F... but after 1 year they are back to hoing in many cases.. but you have to be able to offer them something their husband cant...
 

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everywomanshero said:
Depends. I really mostly only try for married ones or those with a serious bf. If I find out a girl is single I usually leave her alone because I don't want any drama.. unless I know for sure the woman is just wanting to get dirty, I steer totally clear of them. That probably makes me ill-advised on the matter.
Jesus Christ, did you read what you just wrote?

You don't want DRAMA -- so you stay away from SINGLE girls, but try messing with MARRIED women?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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i think there is a 50/50 chance, To me it doesnt matter if she maried recently or long married, if you can offer the woman what she needs at that moment i dont how you not get a fvck from her,
 
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Well, there is this hot married woman at my work. And she is friends with a girl I banged really good at work. And I'm sure the married woman knows about it...because she looks at me all the time with big googley eyes and smiles.

Maybe I should put the sarge on this married woman.
 

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i think you should. we all know that they talk about sex with each other so why not LOL, especially if she giving you smiles. maybe she wants a good time, no strings attached lol
 
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bluemanson said:
i think you should. we all know that they talk about sex with each other so why not LOL, especially if she giving you smiles. maybe she wants a good time, no strings attached lol

Well, for example, today she came over and started talking. And I said jokingly "I'm getting transferred over to your department"

And she smiled and said "come on over I could use you over here"

I just smiled and said "nah I'm good over here" and she walked away.. LOL..

Plus the married woman lives close to my town.. how could I go and sarge her?
 

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stand wrote:
You don't want DRAMA -- so you stay away from SINGLE girls, but try messing with MARRIED women?
It is not as strange as it may seem.

You begin to understand it more when you have the opportunity to see it from the other side. If a woman is attracted to you but knows that you have another woman to whom you are attached and aren't trying to get away from she will deem you safe to have sex with because you are not going to fall in love with her.

Not all women are looking for this sort of situation but you'd be surprised how many are. For example, maybe they just broke up with someone and are not getting the regular sex they are used to. They'd like to hook up with a guy but don't want the DRAMA that would go along with hooking up with a single guy who might be looking for something they are not.

This is similar to the situation of guys who would want to hook up with married women.

-PDX
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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bluemanson said:
i think there is a 50/50 chance, To me it doesnt matter if she maried recently or long married, if you can offer the woman what she needs at that moment i dont how you not get a fvck from her,
I have to agree especially whith "in the moment" women are all about the moment... In a single moment of lust or hodom or what ever all their morals can be tossed out.. that is why we should judge a woman by her actions not her words..
 

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Kingpin SkinnyPimp said:
Well, for example, today she came over and started talking. And I said jokingly "I'm getting transferred over to your department"

And she smiled and said "come on over I could use you over here"

I just smiled and said "nah I'm good over here" and she walked away.. LOL..

Plus the married woman lives close to my town.. how could I go and sarge her?
well i think you just got to get her alone, test the waters with her. see if she wants to, you just never know, Im trying with this girl at tech, she married but damn she fine. giving me all the signals but we email each other at work but when i email something like " lets leave work and go to the beach or something" then she says she just cant. i told her she chicken LOL,
but i ignore her mails and just play it cool. when i see her in class, she asks me why dont i email her, i just say i was busy and i can see this longingness in her eyes, such beautifull eyes too,
 
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