"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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ProDJ26

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I have a question for all the experienced guys. Let's say you meet a woman that is married. Do some of you guys continue to talk to her and not care? Or do you leave her alone? I'm curious because I've recently met quite a few married woman and was wondering what you guys responses would be.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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It's a contentious debate on sosuave.

I don't think married chicks are worth the drama and having to worry about crazed jealous husbands. People get murdered all the time over infidelity.

Plus, if you can pull chicks on your own terms, you don't need married women.
 

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ProDJ26 said:
I have a question for all the experienced guys. Let's say you meet a woman that is married. Do some of you guys continue to talk to her and not care? Or do you leave her alone? I'm curious because I've recently met quite a few married woman and was wondering what you guys responses would be.
Depends. If you are single, stay away. AFAIK, it'd be AFC for a single man to even pursue a married chick since there are so many that aren't married. If you ask me, its a way of saying (without saying it) that you can't find one just as great unmarried. And like Bible belt said, you bring on all sorts of extra problems associated with her infidelity.

If you're married... then we have a different story. They're the best type .... if one is so inclined, for one simple reason; They have the same thing to lose as you do. When a married person screws around with a single person, then they are always at the mercy of that single person because their spouse is only one phone call away; Exceptions being ONS, especially out of town, when you don't give out personal information.
 

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After seeing what my single co-workers is going through with a married coworker, I'd say steer clear.

I also have personal experience that says it's definitely not worth it.

But alot of people like to play with fire. Forbidden fruit so to speak.
 

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But what if married women pursue you? :whistle:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
But what if married women pursue you? :whistle:
Then that will just make it more challenging to do the sensible thing - which I mentioned above. :)

Ok, i'll admit if you're single at 40, you're no spring chicken and maybe the potential single ones aren't quite as abundant as they once were. But still, that married woman can really backfire.
 

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If I am traveling I do not rule them out. They have to be more than an hours drive away. Don’t forget you can reverse it around. If they are in YOUR town for a conference or something and are hanging out at the hotel bar then they are free game.
 

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ProDJ26 said:
I have a question for all the experienced guys. Let's say you meet a woman that is married. Do some of you guys continue to talk to her and not care? Or do you leave her alone? I'm curious because I've recently met quite a few married woman and was wondering what you guys responses would be.
I'd TALK to her...I wouldn't mack unless I caught a vibe. And even then, if she's willing to cheat with you, she's willing to cheat ON you. I'd just use her for sex.
 

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azanon said:
Then that will just make it more challenging to do the sensible thing - which I mentioned above. :)

Ok, i'll admit if you're single at 40, you're no spring chicken and maybe the potential single ones aren't quite as abundant as they once were. But still, that married woman can really backfire.
The same would hold true at any age if you are a AFC and have the tendencies to do the things that could backfire. It's just a sign of a lack of experience of treating a married woman like a girlfriend.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
The same would hold true at any age if you are a AFC and have the tendencies to do the things that could backfire. It's just a sign of a lack of experience of treating a married woman like a girlfriend.
I believe we're agreeing. I was just expressing a bit more understanding in your specific situation considering your age; point being, say, a 21 year old has no business or excuse at all doing this. A 40 year old? Still, a bad idea but I can understand the challenges a bit more.
 

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Any other replies? And squirrels thats exactly what I'm doing lol just talking to her.
 

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squirrels said:
I'd TALK to her...I wouldn't mack unless I caught a vibe. And even then, if she's willing to cheat with you, she's willing to cheat ON you. I'd just use her for sex.
I've asked it before and I'm asking it again; why do guys constantly believe that you have to date a married woman you're bedding? It makes no sense... SHE'S MARRIED! :crazy:
 

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I AM HERE TO TELL YOU, STAY AWAY.... I have been dealing with one for almost a year and when we first met, I WAS going through a divorce and she said she was too. Come to find out, she was not separated like she said and her husband founf out. IT HAS ABOUT GOT THE BEST OF ME, becaue like an idiot, I FELL IN LOVE. She had no intention of ever leaving him and I feel used for sex, not good a feeling. SAVE YOUR SANITY and stay far away. Unless you wanna get played with in the fashion I was.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I've asked it before and I'm asking it again; why do guys constantly believe that you have to date a married woman you're bedding? It makes no sense... SHE'S MARRIED! :crazy:
Did i miss something? I thought its understood here we're basically debating scre* the married woman vs. not. I didn't see anyone say anything about dating her.
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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SoldMySoul said:
... IT HAS ABOUT GOT THE BEST OF ME, becaue like an idiot, I FELL IN LOVE. She had no intention of ever leaving him and I feel used for sex, not good a feeling. SAVE YOUR SANITY and stay far away. Unless you wanna get played with in the fashion I was.
Why, why, why do guys do this? "Going through a divorce" isn't the same as being divorced. Why fall in love with someone who isn't available? Do guys fall in love with everyone they bed?
 

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azanon said:
Did i miss something? I thought its understood here we're basically debating scre* the married woman vs. not. I didn't see anyone say anything about dating her.
squirrels said:
...And even then, if she's willing to cheat with you, she's willing to cheat ON you.
Francisco d'Anconia said:
I've asked it before and I'm asking it again; why do guys constantly believe that you have to date a married woman you're bedding? It makes no sense... SHE'S MARRIED! :crazy:
If you aren't dating a woman, why would there be a concern that she would cheat on you? You aren't dating her, are you???:confused:
 

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Well from my stand point i'll talk to any woman BUT if she's married it ain't gonna work
 

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Dude, just leave it alone. Would you want some guy banging your wife?
 

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speakeasy said:
Dude, just leave it alone. Would you want some guy banging your wife?
AFC logic. No matter what anyone says, a woman will not stray if she's having her needs filled (whatever they may be and as long as she knows what they are and communicates them).
 

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