I have a question for all the experienced guys. Let's say you meet a woman that is married. Do some of you guys continue to talk to her and not care? Or do you leave her alone? I'm curious because I've recently met quite a few married woman and was wondering what you guys responses would be.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
married women?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
It's a contentious debate on sosuave.
I don't think married chicks are worth the drama and having to worry about crazed jealous husbands. People get murdered all the time over infidelity.
Plus, if you can pull chicks on your own terms, you don't need married women.
I don't think married chicks are worth the drama and having to worry about crazed jealous husbands. People get murdered all the time over infidelity.
Plus, if you can pull chicks on your own terms, you don't need married women.
Depends. If you are single, stay away. AFAIK, it'd be AFC for a single man to even pursue a married chick since there are so many that aren't married. If you ask me, its a way of saying (without saying it) that you can't find one just as great unmarried. And like Bible belt said, you bring on all sorts of extra problems associated with her infidelity.ProDJ26 said:
If you're married... then we have a different story. They're the best type .... if one is so inclined, for one simple reason; They have the same thing to lose as you do. When a married person screws around with a single person, then they are always at the mercy of that single person because their spouse is only one phone call away; Exceptions being ONS, especially out of town, when you don't give out personal information.
After seeing what my single co-workers is going through with a married coworker, I'd say steer clear.
I also have personal experience that says it's definitely not worth it.
But alot of people like to play with fire. Forbidden fruit so to speak.
I also have personal experience that says it's definitely not worth it.
But alot of people like to play with fire. Forbidden fruit so to speak.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
But what if married women pursue you? 
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Then that will just make it more challenging to do the sensible thing - which I mentioned above.Francisco d'Anconia said:But what if married women pursue you?
Ok, i'll admit if you're single at 40, you're no spring chicken and maybe the potential single ones aren't quite as abundant as they once were. But still, that married woman can really backfire.
If I am traveling I do not rule them out. They have to be more than an hours drive away. Don’t forget you can reverse it around. If they are in YOUR town for a conference or something and are hanging out at the hotel bar then they are free game.
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I'd TALK to her...I wouldn't mack unless I caught a vibe. And even then, if she's willing to cheat with you, she's willing to cheat ON you. I'd just use her for sex.ProDJ26 said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
The same would hold true at any age if you are a AFC and have the tendencies to do the things that could backfire. It's just a sign of a lack of experience of treating a married woman like a girlfriend.azanon said:Then that will just make it more challenging to do the sensible thing - which I mentioned above.
Ok, i'll admit if you're single at 40, you're no spring chicken and maybe the potential single ones aren't quite as abundant as they once were. But still, that married woman can really backfire.
I believe we're agreeing. I was just expressing a bit more understanding in your specific situation considering your age; point being, say, a 21 year old has no business or excuse at all doing this. A 40 year old? Still, a bad idea but I can understand the challenges a bit more.Francisco d'Anconia said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
BustedKnucks
Don Juan
I wouldn't go after a married chick.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I've asked it before and I'm asking it again; why do guys constantly believe that you have to date a married woman you're bedding? It makes no sense... SHE'S MARRIED! :crazy:squirrels said:
SoldMySoul
Master Don Juan
I AM HERE TO TELL YOU, STAY AWAY.... I have been dealing with one for almost a year and when we first met, I WAS going through a divorce and she said she was too. Come to find out, she was not separated like she said and her husband founf out. IT HAS ABOUT GOT THE BEST OF ME, becaue like an idiot, I FELL IN LOVE. She had no intention of ever leaving him and I feel used for sex, not good a feeling. SAVE YOUR SANITY and stay far away. Unless you wanna get played with in the fashion I was.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Why, why, why do guys do this? "Going through a divorce" isn't the same as being divorced. Why fall in love with someone who isn't available? Do guys fall in love with everyone they bed?SoldMySoul said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
azanon said:
squirrels said:
If you aren't dating a woman, why would there be a concern that she would cheat on you? You aren't dating her, are you???Francisco d'Anconia said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
AFC logic. No matter what anyone says, a woman will not stray if she's having her needs filled (whatever they may be and as long as she knows what they are and communicates them).speakeasy said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.