Marriage 2.0

[bigneil]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I present to you my incentivized plan for men and women to cohabitate.

The Rules (No Children Example)

1) They live together but have separate rooms (like in the old days). This improves sleep dramatically, and makes sure they don't see too much of each other. They don't have to sleep apart.
2) He pays all the bills. This gives her incentive to keep him happy.
3) They try to save as much as possible each month, which gets divided into two accounts, his and hers. This gives her incentive to be frugal with their income.
4) If she works at a job paying money (no stripping allowed), she needs to contribute the same percentage of her income to his account as he does to hers, and must save the same percentage herself. She can can keep the rest but ideally should spend it on things that are in his best interest (like lingerie or college classes). This gives them both incentive for her to earn money.
5) If either decides to leave, they take their savings and go. This gives her incentive to stay with him.
6) If either hires a lawyer, it comes out of their savings.

The downside for ladies: if you suddenly decide one day to have an affair with the landscaper, even though he is broke, and you had hoped to finance it by booting your husband who earned 95% of the savings, and taking his house, and taking half your net worth (even if it means cutting balloons in half) you don't get to finance boy toy with your ex's money.

How would you revise this to make a truly honest arrangement? How would you handle children? The state might say that since you paid for her ever, you have to pay forever.

 

[backseatjuan]

Dude, utopia does not exist, and you should avoid arrangements. My last LTR left, said our arrangement was to see if it works. No, you just get into it, and look for red flags, that's the best thing.

Please tell me the name of this song, I can't seem to find it. You from texas you could know.

 

[bigneil]

Dude, utopia does not exist, and you should avoid arrangements. My last LTR left, said our arrangement was to see if it works. No, you just get into it, and look for red flags, that's the best thing.

Please tell me the name of this song, I can't seem to find it. You from texas you could know.

Special Correspondent Donbass!

 

[backseatjuan]

Excellent! Go find Mp3 backseatjuan. Yea man, arrangements don't work. It has to be the good old fashioned way. This way at least you have a chance, otherwise it's fvcked up from the get go.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Is this like a prenup idea or just you and her agreeing by word of mouth?

 

[bigneil]

Is this like a prenup idea or just you and her agreeing by word of mouth?

I will trust her mouth (pardon the pun).

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I will trust her mouth (pardon the pun).

Well played lol. Only issue I have is that what if she changes her mind and decides to break her promise? Suddenly takes everything out of the joint account, gets ahold of your financial info, and leaves you. Brifault's Law is what I believe this is called; what she says in the present means nothing in the future, essentially.

 

[El Payaso]

It's not in their benefit so women would never agree to this.

 

[KingBeef]

It's not in their benefit so women would never agree to this.

I totally agree, most will never fall for this... When it comes to women it's "all about me, what can you do for me, how you make me feel, excitement, power, leverage and control."
If you don't have any these on lockdown in a long term relationship you will struggle.

 

[zekko]

I've been seeing my girlfriend for 12 years, so I suppose we've lived together for 11. I think the financial arrangements should be tailored to each individual couple, but here's how we do it, for what it's worth:

1) We share the same bedroom.
2) I pay the bills because I want everything in my name. There is no common law in my state. She pays for her stuff like her car, her insurance, credit cards, etc.
3) We each have separate bank accounts
4) She works (I don't, lol). She contributes an agreed upon cash amount to the household, which we use to eat, buy household supplies, take care of the pets, etc. We don't contribute to each other's bank accounts. We don't have any children.

The only advice I would give on this topic is to know the laws you are living under. This forum is very anti-cohabitation, but I find it has made for a very suitable alternative to marriage. A lot of the advice given on this forum assumes that you have no self control or any idea how to screen.

 

[skinnyguy]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I present to you my incentivized plan for men and women to cohabitate.

The Rules (No Children Example)

1) They live together but have separate rooms (like in the old days). This improves sleep dramatically, and makes sure they don't see too much of each other. They don't have to sleep apart.
2) He pays all the bills. This gives her incentive to keep him happy.
3) They try to save as much as possible each month, which gets divided into two accounts, his and hers. This gives her incentive to be frugal with their income.
4) If she works at a job paying money (no stripping allowed), she needs to contribute the same percentage of her income to his account as he does to hers, and must save the same percentage herself. She can can keep the rest but ideally should spend it on things that are in his best interest (like lingerie or college classes). This gives them both incentive for her to earn money.
5) If either decides to leave, they take their savings and go. This gives her incentive to stay with him.
6) If either hires a lawyer, it comes out of their savings.

The downside for ladies: if you suddenly decide one day to have an affair with the landscaper, even though he is broke, and you had hoped to finance it by booting your husband who earned 95% of the savings, and taking his house, and taking half your net worth (even if it means cutting balloons in half) you don't get to finance boy toy with your ex's money.

How would you revise this to make a truly honest arrangement? How would you handle children? The state might say that since you paid for her ever, you have to pay forever.

Since when do women automatically make their man happy because he pays the bills?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Since when do women automatically make their man happy because he pays the bills?

Exactly. They figure you must like doing it.

 

[bigneil]

Since when do women automatically make their man happy because he pays the bills?

Since the dawn of mankind - until Marriage 1.1 said she can take everything.

If the man isn't paying the bills, what is to keep her from leaving him for a younger, stronger but equally broke man?

Since when do women automatically make their man happy because he pays the bills?

Exactly. They figure you must like doing it.

He DOES. Earning money and being generous feels good. But he understands that it's mainly about attraction and he only wants women who he knows are attracted to him. Women don't leave providers they are attracted to.

Well played lol. Only issue I have is that what if she changes her mind and decides to break her promise? Suddenly takes everything out of the joint account, gets ahold of your financial info, and leaves you. Brifault's Law is what I believe this is called; what she says in the present means nothing in the future, essentially.

What promise? Her promise was to leave you if she wasn't happy. That account is hers.

Yes, Briffault's Law suggests that women don't give you credit for past favors basically, but since you are paying her bills, you still get credit for that.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

What promise? Her promise was to leave you if she wasn't happy. That account is hers.

Yes, Briffault's Law suggests that women don't give you credit for past favors basically, but since you are paying her bills, you still get credit for that.

But how does that make her FEEL anything? Paying the bills does something for her, but it doesn't necessarily make her feel anything. That's what I am trying to say. It's what they feel in the moment more than anything.

 

[Serenity]

That's looks more like Marriage Alpha, gamebreaking bugs may exist.

1. Not gonna happen.
2. Fvck no, I'm not paying all the bills unless it's adequately compensated by her paying something else.
3. Why even bother living with another person?
4. Might as well pay her bills with that money.
5. No, no it does not if you truly are a sh!tty man worth leaving and ripping off.
6. Sometimes it's worth it.

So much fear of women leaving, it's pointless. Constantly tell them they can leave at any second and they never will. Put up a challenge for them to leave and they'll do anything in their power to leave.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

But how does that make her FEEL anything? Paying the bills does something for her, but it doesn't necessarily make her feel anything. That's what I am trying to say. It's what they feel in the moment more than anything.

Depending upon the type of woman. You have to filter. A lot of women if a man makes her feel secure and supported so she doesn't have to pay the bills will do traditional femine roles for him. Cook, sex him, comfort him, etc.

There is another type of woman and it tends to be strippers and really selfish ones, they will figure you paid those bills because you want to, they don't owe you jack and their entitlement and arrogancy grows.

You really have to judge the type you are dealing with.

In this day and age women go to work just like men, we would need a reasonable woman who doesn't expect the man to do everything and wants to do her part.

 

[bigneil]

But how does that make her FEEL anything? Paying the bills does something for her, but it doesn't necessarily make her feel anything. That's what I am trying to say. It's what they feel in the moment more than anything.

The money doesn't make her feel anything - but by that point you already did. You are searching for a girl who feels something for you originally and immediately.

First, you can tell by the way she moves you. When you see the right girl you will think "Oh my God, I would do ANYTHING for that girl".

When you approach her, you can tell she feels something by her blush, by her shy smile, by her full attention, by her remembering you, by her initiating, by her touching you, by her responding to your romance, by her kissing you, by her accepting your invitation, by her submitting to your advances, by her achieving orgasm with you. If you don't reach that point (followed by 6 months of dating and her being the first to say 'I love you'), you don't offer to let her move in to begin with.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The money doesn't make her feel anything - but by that point you already did. You are searching for a girl who feels something for you originally and immediately.

First, you can tell by the way she moves you. When you see the right girl you will think "Oh my God, I would do ANYTHING for that girl".

When you approach her, you can tell she feels something by her blush, by her shy smile, by her full attention, by her remembering you, by her initiating, by her touching you, by her responding to your romance, by her kissing you, by her accepting your invitation, by her submitting to your advances, by her achieving orgasm with you. If you don't reach that point (followed by 6 months of dating and her being the first to say 'I love you'), you don't offer to let her move in to begin with.

I see your point.

 

[bigneil]

Often in my life I tried to date girls who I thought were second best. I realized that when we do this we hurt both parties. We walk too far ahead of them. We speak in a disrespectful tone. We don't listen or remember details. We have a wandering eye. We underperform in bed.

If you don't think the girl you are with is the most beautiful girl in the world, you won't treat her right. Meanwhile, if you DO think she is the most beautiful girl in the world, you will probably scare her away. It's only when they love us back that our thinking they are the best increases versus decreases her attraction. And does it ever. There is something special about being able to pay a woman a sincere compliment and watch her reaction when she instinctively knows it is genuine. It's truly those moments when you express your love and she reciprocates that are the essence of what we are seeking as a seducer. Often we have to take a chance and let our romantic interest be known. Don't pass up a chance to express your sincere compliments to the women who move you the most.

 

[zekko]

Why even bother living with another person?

There are certain things I don't like to do. I don't like cleaning toilets. Meanwhile, she doesn't like to take out the trash. That's just a very small example, but there are advantages.