“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Warrior74 said:
Self destruction is the way forward.
So very true. One bad experience will teach you more than reading 1,000 posts on SoSuave. That's why I often think it's best to just let guys make their mistakes, it's part of the growing process.

Not saying Die Hard is making a mistake here, by the way - not enough information. What WILL mess him up is all this indecision. All the I want to have sex with her, no I don't I just want to be friends, I am attracted to her, I'm not going to kiss her, maybe I should kiss her, etc. That indecision can be an attraction killer, women want the leader. Pick a direction and go with it.
 

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@ Zekko: Exactly, you either cross the street or you stay on your side. What you don't do is start crossing the street and then stand still halfway through. That's a sure way to get hit by a car ;). By the way, the answers to your questions are already in my earlier posts. They might be difficult to discern, though, coz some of my posts in this thread were not the result of a thought process, they were the thought process (hope that makes sense). Anyway, I know the answers myself, lol :)

@ Warrior: Gradually stepping outside you comfort zone is the way forward.
 

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Dear DieHard,
"I'm afraid she might "flake on me" and not be my dancing partner if I don't show enough interest in her!"well Boo Hoo,aren't there another ten Girls in the Class?your objective is to learn to Dance,the acquisition of Skill therein will guarantee you a lift in your Point Rating of at least 1.5....easier than the ephemeral gaining of muscles in the Gym.
 

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Scaramouche said:
Dear DieHard,
"I'm afraid she might "flake on me" and not be my dancing partner if I don't show enough interest in her!"well Boo Hoo,aren't there another ten Girls in the Class?your objective is to learn to Dance,the acquisition of Skill therein will guarantee you a lift in your Point Rating of at least 1.5....easier than the ephemeral gaining of muscles in the Gym.
True that ^
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I'm really happy to get responses from you guys, thank you for that.

@ Scaramouche: Like I said before, everyone in class has a fixed partner. FOr example, it's people who have a relationship/married or people who hooked up through that "find a dance partner" site and chose to be each other's dancing partner for the classes, they won't suddenly swap.

Sure, we started doing rotation during class on the second lesson. But the couples show up together for the class, each member of each couple will stand next to each other as a couple, not as individuals, and they start out dancing with their fixed partner. Only when the teacher says we're gonna mix it up, the couples "break up", but they return to each other at the end of the lesson again. So no, it is not that easy to just swap dancing partners if things between me and this chick go awry.

@ PairPlusRoyalFlush: Thanks for your concern, I really mean that. But you can't seriously compare my current situation to the situation you were in when I gave you that advice...
 

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I wonder how many people use these dance classes as just a big dating service. More than a few, I bet.
How much do these classes cost, and how long do they run?
I think Jophil mentioned something about second year in one of his posts.
 

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Mine run for 15 weeks and it's not very expensive.

As you can see, starting these classes definitely added to my "love life" :crackup:


By the way, you guys wanna know what pulled me over the line to actually sign up for this? I had never seen it before but just recently, I finally watched that movie "Swingers". The dance scene at the end of the movie is what pulled me over the line, lol.
 

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zekko said:
I wonder how many people use these dance classes as just a big dating service. More than a few, I bet.
How much do these classes cost, and how long do they run?
I think Jophil mentioned something about second year in one of his posts.
Dance classes are the BEST way to meet new women. There are always more women than men and the same attendees usually turn up -same time same night , every week.

Dance class game is also the best kept secret...easy.
 

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Mine run for 15 weeks and it's not very expensive
Define "not very expensive".

I had never seen it before but just recently, I finally watched that movie "Swingers". The dance scene at the end of the movie is what pulled me over the line, lol.
Great movie, and fairly consistent with some of the stuff they say here. I also like that dance scene. I've always thought swing dancing was very cool. Let me know if you run into someone who looks like Heather Graham!

Jophil28 said:
There are always more women than men
Sounds like with Die Hard's class you have to have a partner.
 
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Zekko, it's around 10 Euro for one lesson.

Actually, my dancing partner sorta has the same type of face and the reddish hair! Not nearly as handsome, though :p


@ PairPlusRoyalFlush: Whatever, dude... Thanks again for your concern, I'll leave it at that.
 

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HAH! An interesting situation is coming up!

So we had that text convo about me coming to her place to drop off the USB stick. I couldn't make it on Friday, so I suggested Saturday but she couldn't make that. This is how that convo ended:

Her: "Oh, I'll be in (insert city name) on Saturday night... Wednesday night after all then, I guess? (she means to just bring the USB stick along at our next class) Wanna grab a drink before class? Sweet dreams. (it was late at night)

Me: "No worries ;) I'll see you Wednesday at 7:30 then? Sweet dreams."

Here's the thing: she never replied after this...

I think this is where my gut feeling is finally gonna get it's confirmation and she'll start playing games... I bet she's just gonna show up at 7:50 and act like we never agreed upon meeting earlier. If she were a normal person, that'd be a ridiculous. And to be honest, she has been acting perfectly normal until now, but my spider sense did go off when we first met (through the phone) and I trust it. I just "know" she's not gonna be there at 7:30, like I suggested.

So I'll just be there at 7:50 myself (class starts at 8). We'll see what happens :p. She'll probably be there already and ask why I'm late, lol. Then I'll just explain to her: "If you don't confirm the time I suggested, I'll assume you won't be there at the time I suggested". She might go: "Oh, I thought it was clear that I would be there at your suggested time. Why whouldn't I? I was the one who suggested to grab drinks before class in the first place, so of course I can be here 30 minutes before class, no need to confrim it, right? You're weird... Besides, if you were unsure, then why didn't you call/text me to confirm?" But I'll just stand my ground if she starts this crap.

Whatever, it's gonna be interesting to see how this one plays out :)
 
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Die Hard said:
I think this is where my gut feeling is finally gonna get it's confirmation and she'll start playing games... I bet she's just gonna show up at 7:50 and act like we never agreed upon meeting earlier. If she were a normal person, that'd be a ridiculous. And to be honest, she has been acting perfectly normal until now, but my spider sense did go off when we first met (through the phone) and I trust it. I just "know" she's not gonna be there at 7:30, like I suggested.

So I'll just be there at 7:50 myself (class starts at 8). We'll see what happens . She'll probably be there already and ask why I'm late, lol. Then I'll just explain to her: "If you don't confirm the time I suggested, I'll assume you won't be there at the time I suggested". She might go: "Oh, I thought it was clear that I would be there at your suggested time. Why whouldn't I? I was the one who suggested to grab drinks before class in the first place, so of course I can be here 30 minutes before class, no need to confrim it, right? You're weird... Besides, if you were unsure, then why didn't you call/text me to confirm?" But I'll just stand my ground if she starts this crap.
This is exactly why I'm glad I don't have to deal with dating anymore.
 

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HAH! "If you don't confirm the time I suggested, I'll assume you won't be there at the time I suggested". She might go: "Oh, I thought it was clear that I would be there at your suggested time. Why whouldn't I? I was the one who suggested to grab drinks before class in the first place, so of course I can be here 30 minutes before class, no need to confrim it, right? You're weird... Besides, if you were unsure, then why didn't you call/text me to confirm?" But I'll just stand my ground if she starts this crap.
LOL! Oh the joys of too much talking and overthinking. This post shows both. Having preplanned lines sucks. Thinking of whats and ifs sucks. Going with the flow and dismissing it all causually, priceless. YOU CARE TOO MUCH.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Thanks for putting things in perspective, Warrior :up:
 

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Why do you need a partner for a dance class? Usually they're dying to get more guys. I'd just rock up and rock out. You're so occupied with trying to spend more time with her that I bet she can smell the butterflies farting around in your stomach.
 

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Dear DieHard,
This Culture of "Fixed Couples"Is something new to me....Apologies...As you have signed up for your lesson you are really in a tricky situation...Aah well a little humility is no load to acquire...treat it as an academic situation....I think a word to the Instructor might not go astray...even just going on your own you will pick up the basic steps...a video and your own music on the carpet at home,and you will soon have it worked out...Here in Australia if you are a few lessons ahead of the great unwashed you can easily pick up good quality Women,but if everything is couples then it seems a bit self defeating...But,but,but,is this the only Dance Hall offering lessons?I find it hard to understand where all the lonely Girls Go?What about a bit of feedback from the other Guys on this site.
 

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I like how Die Hard comes off as someone who tries to come off more mentally sane while describing this woman as BPD/nutcase when if someone with an IQ over 100 is able to examine his posts it shows that he's just as loony or more so than the girl.

If you're really 30, what's up with the games?
 

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I'm with you there, Die Hard sounds like one of those. I started a dance class and by no means is it a way for meet women, I'm just there to really actually learn how to dance. I'm not physically smooth and I'd like to be.

Women who are experienced in dance classes know sketchy guys will come up to them wanting to be their fixed dance partner and probably want to go "out for drinks" "out for coffee" or "out for something"

zekko said:
I wonder how many people use these dance classes as just a big dating service. More than a few, I bet.
How much do these classes cost, and how long do they run?
I think Jophil mentioned something about second year in one of his posts.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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