"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Mall Approach

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guys please comment on this line I personally use at the mall

"Hi, excuse me but what is your name?"


good? bad? lame? cheesy ?


what do you suggest instead ?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I sometimes walk up to one girl and ask what time is it. And then i ask what she is going to buy.
 

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It is a solid openning, but only if you have the game to get pass the general pleasantries. Sometimes I b**** out of approachs because I don't have anything to say after the basics.

When performing at my best, it is because I've noticed something like a book she has or a college t-shirt that she's wearing. I need to develop the social skills and diversity of conversation that allows one to chat up any women at anytime.

:eek: if i could ever get past the anxiety of a group appraoch .....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I did some mall approaches a bit ago, and I usually find that if it's a completely cold approach, chances of success are low to none (at least for me, and I'm not that good). However, if you are getting IOIs from her before you open the convo, go in there.

I just happen to look good in a tight shirt, so when I go out, I wear it. It gets me noticed, increasing her IL and giving me a better fighting chance. So do something that would get the HB's attention.

Your line seems too formal. Personally, I don't like the "excuse me". You don't need to be excused. After all if shes giving you IOIs, it is SHE who wants to meet you!

Try to notice something about her, and comment on it. Just be prepared to provide 90% of the conversation, initially. Don't expect a 50-50, like you would with a friend.
 

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way too hard, it's what i've been doing

many hot chicks are there to shopping with their friends, it's hard to approach them (for me anyway)

find lonely hot chick, ask her for opinion on what you should get for someone or asking her if the clothes looks good on you :D
 
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Originally posted by tom121
way too hard, it's what i've been doing

many hot chicks are there to shopping with their friends, it's hard to approach them (for me anyway)

find lonely hot chick, ask her for opinion on what you should get for someone or asking her if the clothes looks good on you :D

yep I've been thinking this same way too ....
gotta approach indirect (eventhough been indirect it is not my style)
 
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