"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Making the move

Vincent Freeman

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Ok, so I have been talking to this chic for about 3 weeks now and I must say things are progressing greatly. So far we have been to the gym together a few times, gone out clubbing, and have talked quite a bit. However, from what I got on the first date and now she seems to be a "conservative" girl. Meaning she probably won't allow sex that quickly. She is also very secure (i mean she is a Hb 9) and sure of what she wants. Now, since we have only known each other for just about a few weeks, when would you guys recommend going for at least a hook up attempt? Is there a time with women like this, or should I just go for it the next chance I get? I just don't want to blow it, and make her assume that's all I want.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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think with your head, not your d!ck, this is why most men fail.
what until she brings it up and makes a move, females know when there ready.
 

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Sounds like you're well on your way to the dreaded friend zone.

Have you done anything to establish yourself as more than a friend? That should be done early on.

what until she brings it up and makes a move, females know when there ready.
Men make the first move. It gives us control. Women expect us to make the first move. Sitting around waiting for her to make the first move is the surest way to being LJBF'd that I know of.
 

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have you kissed her yet? Is it clear to her that you guys have been going on dates and not just hanging out?
 

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Actually, we have kissed execpt it has only been after we have been drinking. Then again we don't see much of each other throughout the week because we are both busy. But she is coming over tonight to watch a movie at my place so I am going go ahead and at least kiss her sober for once. That's why I was asking if I should try to take it all or just kiss for now until more intense kino. What you think?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Originally posted by GirlCrazy

Men make the first move. It gives us control. Women expect us to make the first move. Sitting around waiting for her to make the first move is the surest way to being LJBF'd that I know of.
Of course you make the first move (kissing, rubbing, etc.), but am not going to make any more initiative to do so if she's not into it, thats what am saying. If she's ok with what your doing, keep doing so.
 

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Kiss her while sober, after you next go out with her. If she's still comfortable and is into it, then go for the makeout session at your place or hers. After that, while you're in bed, attempt to f-close, if she's not comfortable w/that then don't push it. Try again next time until she totally is down for that. Feel free to talk about it verbally with her, if you are comfortable enough to be kissing each other sober (and she's a 'good' girl), then she likes you.
 
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