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Making moves on a girl that is in a committed relationship?

Serg897

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Im in an interesting situation, and I'd like some opinions

There is a girl I know, who I am attracted to. But she has been with this other dude for several years. She LIVES with her boyfriend.

When I first met her over the summer I took the standard preliminary steps (getting her number, etc) - until I found out this fact. At this point I backed off a bit, but stayed friends with her for the hell of it, and we hung out fairly often over the summer - I definitely showed her many good times. Undoubtedly, there was always some attraction.

So, I hang out with her last week, we get sh!t-faced drunk at her place --- and we end up making out a little bit before the bf gets home. I think nothing of it at the time (I was drunk!), but the next morning I start to think about the implications of this.

We didn't even acknowledge what happened all that much, besides talking about how ridiculously drunk we were. Now she is sending me text messages every few days, today she was complaining about how bored she is at her apartment.

I don't really like her boyfriend. I think he is sortoff a tool. Ordinarily I wouldn't even think about doing something like this, but I don't have any respect for the guy...I do not consider him to be a fun or engaging person at all.

But there is a still an ethical/moral question here.

So, opinions? What would you all do? Go or no go?
 

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You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ForeverYoungDJ

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I'd say back off, don't sh!t on another guy's territory. If she would cheat on him what's to say she wouldn't cheat on you? I'm also a big believer of karma and what goes around comes around, best to build up that good karma. There are so many other girls out there, game the ones that are single, you'll feel a lot better about yourself and save yourself a lot of unnecessary drama. Cheers to a new year! :rockon:
 

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Bottom line is she obvioulsy wants you. I was in a similar situation only the girl wasn't living with her boyfriend. I pretty much let her make the decision about the whole boyfriend thing, thats not your problem, it's theres. After I did that she ended up breaking up with her boyfriend and we had a good time together. I suggest going for it if you like her. Worst case scenario you will just end up hooking up with for a while. But dooo not be the "guy on the side" that she thinks she can control.
 

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You already made a move on her. Ethical/moral question for who??? If you are ok with it, then go for it.

The real question for you is, what type of relationship/arrangement do you want with this one?

Are you expecting her to leave her boyfriend? If you are, don't. Why would she mess up her living arrangement.

Unless you are ok with being the "side man" who she can spend time when she's available, and you have no problem with that, I wouldn't even bother. If you are ok with being somebody she messes around with, then go for it.
 

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Back off would you like someone to do the same thing to your girl? Well, if she wants you that bad she should leave her BF. We talk about women being sluts etc yet here's an example of how guys help to create the problem.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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trv26

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Serg897 said:
I don't really like her boyfriend. I think he is sortoff a tool. Ordinarily I wouldn't even think about doing something like this, but I don't have any respect for the guy...I do not consider him to be a fun or engaging person at all.
As if that had anything to do with you kissing the girl. So, you think a guy has to prove himself to you, that he deserves to keep his girl? May I ask who the hell you are?

Do as you please, just don't come up with stupid crap like this.
 

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Do everything you can to get in her pants.

Just keep in mind a woman that will cheat with you will most likely cheat on you eventually.

And even if you were a morality crew member here this doesn't break the bros before hoes rule because this guy is most certainly no friend of yours by what you have said. :up:
 

Serg897

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I knew I would get a mixed reaction to this. hah.

some comments:

I know full well that I cannot expect any sort of relationship from this girl. At least, not anytime soon. I don't think I would mind getting in her plans just for the sake of it - which is why I posted.

My perspective has always been that if I see a girl with a boyfriend is blatantly showing her interest, if I don't like/know the guy then I consider it.

Still, it might not be worth the trouble.
 
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