"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I have not been too comfortable starting a fresh conversation with a stranger, but once I get going I can easily turn it into a good relationship. I recently joined a new gym, and lots of guys come to work out there, i would just like to develop friendly relations with them, but as i said i am not too good at starting fresh conversations, any suggestions you guys would like to give to help build friendly relations with guys out there, and make my gym time more pleasurable?.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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if it's a big gym, it's hard. a LOT easier if it's small because you're almost forced into talking with the people there

wherever you're at, you can always ask guys if they'd spot you. then after they're done spotting you, you can spot them or whatever. ask how their workout's going. like you said, after initial contact it's easy.

spotting = watching over you so that when you come to failure, they can take the weight off you
 

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Ask for training advice. Most guys are always glad to give you tips on training. Then you ask them how long they've been training for. Then you discuss training. This is the AFC style of socialising in the gym, but it works :D
 

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Try not to come on too strong at first and don't think this is like a date where you're questioning the girl and spitting what she says right back at her. Just be very laid back and relax.
 

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i go to a small gym...but that gym probably has hundreds of members already. every time i go i see about the same ppl more or less.

Dont really see a point in talkin to the guys there. other than the gym staff/manager im cool and talk with.

how do you hook up with a girl in the gym w/o seeming like you're hitting on her?? it's tough. i mean if u talk to her, it would seem pretty obvious. girls check me out as i walk by, but other than that i cant see where their eyes are staring, cuz i dont wear my glasses in the gym.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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thanks gav, wolfie, engetsu, and screw it, some very valuable advice indeed.
screw it, how about noticing the girl while she is excercising to pick up some flaws, and then suggesting her on how she can improve ?
 

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Oh no. Correcting a girl's form is the biggest mistake you could make and will certainly not endear her to you. She will find it patronising and will not be grateful.

A better method would be to compliment her and ask her about her training program etc. training goals.
 

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How do you get to the gym and what do you do there?

I usually go by bus and do martial arts courses.
If you do similar things (i.e. courses with a set end time), you can talk to people after the course in the bus. To guys you can talk in the locker room as well.
 

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Originally posted by EternalBachelor
Oh no. Correcting a girl's form is the biggest mistake you could make and will certainly not endear her to you. She will find it patronising and will not be grateful.

A better method would be to compliment her and ask her about her training program etc. training goals.
i'd say correcting their form is all good. you get the opportunity for some easy kino, just like showin em how to play golf; you can tease em about how they look like they're stiff and need oiled up a bit

better method...compliment? well maybe one somewhere in the convo, but not a starter

there's a difference between making friends with guys at the gym and chatting a girl up.

making friends with guys: you talk about boring stuff that their friends would talk to them about...like their workout programme etc

chatting up a girl: you want to show her that you are more exciting than all the other chumps and nice guys around her. She can easily talk to her friends about her workout programme.

c&f - that's more like it...i'd help you out, but since i'm so good i'd need something in return first, like a massage
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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