"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Makeup vs Beauty

DanelMadr

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Often when I see a very attractive girl I realize later she wore makeup.

I don't mean eyeliner and lipstick but all face makeup. It just makes them look hot or hotter than the reality could be.

And I sometimes fell for this "trap".

What is your take on that?
Have you noticed that most of the really hot looking girls wear good all face makeup?
And most of them would look ordinary without it?

I met girls who looked hot without it...with makeup they would probably made die on spot.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I see right through the makeup and hair and clothes to the raw body. I can tell who is hot when they wake up in the morning and whose not, even if the natural girl isnt "hot" when she's made up, she's gonna get my attention. A diamond in the rough is WAY better than a polished turd.
 

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I call these girls Oompa Loompa's.

It is a nightmare when you wake up and her face is removed by the white pillow case.

This is EXACTLY why I wish I lived in California or near a beach.

I would make every first date at the beach. Rock the body + no make up.
 

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i noticed this aswell
because a girl in our school used to seem alright
then all of a sudden she starts doing her hair differently and wearing make up
im like wow WTF (i know make up is a lie but) she looked good (5 to a 6)
 

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I just don't find girls attractive without makeup.

I think the ability to properly use makeup is a feminine trait and something that a woman should know and do.

I don't care what she looks like without makeup because I expect her to wear it, period.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There are some girls that have potential who suddenly realize it one day and then they start wearing the right clothes, makeup etc. and then they really get noticed as a hottie. But it's very rare that a truly ugly girl can mask it using makeup. I don't think I've ever seen a fugly girl become hot using makeup alone.

No matter how much makeup they wear, or how elaborately they do their hair or how nice they dress, they can't conceal their body shape. Even through thick clothing, you can figure out her body habitus.


Personally, I like it when a girl makes the effort to look good. I bet a lot of us guys would be less attractive if we didn't dress well and groom ourselves properly.
 

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But it's very rare that a truly ugly girl can mask it using makeup. I don't think I've ever seen a fugly girl become hot using makeup alone.
Yeah, this is what I think. Makeup enhances the appearance, and the girl has to have something to enhance.

I often prefer the way women look without makeup, or at least with it only lightly applied. With makeup, less is often more. I like the natural look. If a girl has too much makeup caked on her face it's just a turnoff really.
 

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if i have to chose makeup or beauty... beauty without a doubt... tired of the wrap up paper being better than the actual present.

Sorry about the english but it was a long day...
 

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I like this thread... It is an illusion, I think you need to go for someone who at least looks ok without makeup, cause if the smoke blows away, and the mirrors shatter, you don't want to be left with susan boyle.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I don't care how much makeup you put on Susan Boyle, she's not going to look hot.

What's that saying about lipstick on a pig?
 

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zekko said:
I don't care how much makeup you put on Susan Boyle, she's not going to look hot.

What's that saying about lipstick on a pig?
Beleive me makeup can hide anything...
 

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Beauty over make up anydayy!

I want a girl who can rockk some sweat pants and a tank top with no make up on, and still look sexy. LIke the girl from step up 2
 

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horaholic said:
I see right through the makeup and hair and clothes to the raw body. I can tell who is hot when they wake up in the morning and whose not, even if the natural girl isnt "hot" when she's made up, she's gonna get my attention. A diamond in the rough is WAY better than a polished turd.
^^^Yep. Me too. Another interesting issue is that of plastic surgery. I'd be interested as to what other guys think about gals who get their eyes done, boob jobs, etc? My gal has had her boobs done, and I don't have a problem with it. Maybe some guys would. I like women who "make the effort" with a bit of makeup, heals, nice clothes n stuff. A feminine trait imo. Better than coming home to sweats and flip flops. Hate that. Of course females can go overboard with altering their looks to the point where it's a turnoff.
 

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hate plastic surgery! HATE too much makeup...if they are wearing that much makeup its for a reason. if their face is covered in acne or whatever makeup only makes it worse...those girls can stay the hell away from me. eyeliner and whatever else they use here and there is fine, but nothing else. boob job...maybe, just depends what they have originally. anything else no thank you..natural is the way to go.
ive had girls who need a little makeup, but ive also had girls who i LOVE seeing with none on, in just a tank top and sweats. it can be very hot if the girl can pull it off..
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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