"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Makeup vs Beauty

DanelMadr

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Often when I see a very attractive girl I realize later she wore makeup.

I don't mean eyeliner and lipstick but all face makeup. It just makes them look hot or hotter than the reality could be.

And I sometimes fell for this "trap".

What is your take on that?
Have you noticed that most of the really hot looking girls wear good all face makeup?
And most of them would look ordinary without it?

I met girls who looked hot without it...with makeup they would probably made die on spot.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I see right through the makeup and hair and clothes to the raw body. I can tell who is hot when they wake up in the morning and whose not, even if the natural girl isnt "hot" when she's made up, she's gonna get my attention. A diamond in the rough is WAY better than a polished turd.
 

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I call these girls Oompa Loompa's.

It is a nightmare when you wake up and her face is removed by the white pillow case.

This is EXACTLY why I wish I lived in California or near a beach.

I would make every first date at the beach. Rock the body + no make up.
 

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i noticed this aswell
because a girl in our school used to seem alright
then all of a sudden she starts doing her hair differently and wearing make up
im like wow WTF (i know make up is a lie but) she looked good (5 to a 6)
 

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I just don't find girls attractive without makeup.

I think the ability to properly use makeup is a feminine trait and something that a woman should know and do.

I don't care what she looks like without makeup because I expect her to wear it, period.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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There are some girls that have potential who suddenly realize it one day and then they start wearing the right clothes, makeup etc. and then they really get noticed as a hottie. But it's very rare that a truly ugly girl can mask it using makeup. I don't think I've ever seen a fugly girl become hot using makeup alone.

No matter how much makeup they wear, or how elaborately they do their hair or how nice they dress, they can't conceal their body shape. Even through thick clothing, you can figure out her body habitus.


Personally, I like it when a girl makes the effort to look good. I bet a lot of us guys would be less attractive if we didn't dress well and groom ourselves properly.
 

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But it's very rare that a truly ugly girl can mask it using makeup. I don't think I've ever seen a fugly girl become hot using makeup alone.
Yeah, this is what I think. Makeup enhances the appearance, and the girl has to have something to enhance.

I often prefer the way women look without makeup, or at least with it only lightly applied. With makeup, less is often more. I like the natural look. If a girl has too much makeup caked on her face it's just a turnoff really.
 

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if i have to chose makeup or beauty... beauty without a doubt... tired of the wrap up paper being better than the actual present.

Sorry about the english but it was a long day...
 

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I like this thread... It is an illusion, I think you need to go for someone who at least looks ok without makeup, cause if the smoke blows away, and the mirrors shatter, you don't want to be left with susan boyle.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I don't care how much makeup you put on Susan Boyle, she's not going to look hot.

What's that saying about lipstick on a pig?
 

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zekko said:
I don't care how much makeup you put on Susan Boyle, she's not going to look hot.

What's that saying about lipstick on a pig?
Beleive me makeup can hide anything...
 

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Beauty over make up anydayy!

I want a girl who can rockk some sweat pants and a tank top with no make up on, and still look sexy. LIke the girl from step up 2
 

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horaholic said:
I see right through the makeup and hair and clothes to the raw body. I can tell who is hot when they wake up in the morning and whose not, even if the natural girl isnt "hot" when she's made up, she's gonna get my attention. A diamond in the rough is WAY better than a polished turd.
^^^Yep. Me too. Another interesting issue is that of plastic surgery. I'd be interested as to what other guys think about gals who get their eyes done, boob jobs, etc? My gal has had her boobs done, and I don't have a problem with it. Maybe some guys would. I like women who "make the effort" with a bit of makeup, heals, nice clothes n stuff. A feminine trait imo. Better than coming home to sweats and flip flops. Hate that. Of course females can go overboard with altering their looks to the point where it's a turnoff.
 

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hate plastic surgery! HATE too much makeup...if they are wearing that much makeup its for a reason. if their face is covered in acne or whatever makeup only makes it worse...those girls can stay the hell away from me. eyeliner and whatever else they use here and there is fine, but nothing else. boob job...maybe, just depends what they have originally. anything else no thank you..natural is the way to go.
ive had girls who need a little makeup, but ive also had girls who i LOVE seeing with none on, in just a tank top and sweats. it can be very hot if the girl can pull it off..
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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