"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ok, well NOW! the new problem wit my gf, whever we talking we start all cool and stuff and like in 10 minutes we starts getting really quiet and it kinda annoys me! so i need to find a way to get her to talk more, cause ive tried the conversation starters at the bible, but they dont even work! they work for just a lil and she stops talking, all she says is ok, ok. soo yea i need some help at that, and i dont want to get another girl! i really like her, but i just need to fix this problem! thanks
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why are you talking!? Why aren't you screwing or making out!? Just talk with her enough to set sh*t up, then have some fun. Simple, almost no talking needed.

And to get around to why she isn't talking much, this sounds like a problem on your part. From all of my experience it shows that women are hard to shut up, not to start talking.

What are you talking about!? Does she even know?

If you want help, we need details.
 

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First off, calm down man. You don't need to have a nervous breakdown just because one of you (or both) have poor social skills. I used to have this problem, especially while talking on the phone, but after a while and some good practice in real life, I began to really understand how to make your conversations better. Just picture a conversation with anyone as a big giant tree w/ hundreds of branches. Start talking and pick whatever branch you want to go off of. For example, if she starts talking about when she went on vacation to Hawaii last spring break, try something like this:

Her: Yea, my family and I went to Hawaii last summer
You: Really? I've always wanted to go there.
or
You: Where did you visit over there?
or
You: How long did you stay?
or
You: What all did you do when you got there?

The options are endless. And believe me when I say they are really endless. I almost crapped myself when I finally realized this. Makes me kinda wonder how I went all those years not knowing what to say to girls.
 

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we talk bout random stuff! and its actually like when we talk on the phone or IM, so we cant make out like that! lol but we were talkin about her teaching me how to dance and shes like no and i just kept asking her y but she didnt told me y. i also told her to sing to be but she didnt wanted to, cuase she cant sing, and thats it
 

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First off, jerky boi, i if you where directing those opening comments to me, i do not appreciate it.

Second, it sounds like this goes beyond having a convo with this girl, it sounds more like you need to learn how to carry a convo period.

Third, my point in my first post was that you do not need to talk to communicate.

one last thing, do you ever hangout in person?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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not a lot since her parents make her go to work wit them and they still dont let her have a boyfriend, i go to her house like every one or two weeks
 

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Is that what you want out of the relationship? If so stay, if not move on.

Odds are that things wont change much.
 

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yea i wanna stay wit her! and theres sometimes that we have long conversations out of nowhere! like after i posted a lil after that, we kept talking for a long time!
 
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