"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Make a shy girl to open up

zorg198

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Hello,

The women i am dating is very shy , i do kino with her... i hug her , kiss her , holding hands and all this crap. the question is i want to initiate more kissing with her and make her open up.

The question is , how???
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Fly By Night

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If you are doing these things with her, she has to be somewhat open to you or else she would shove you off her when you did it. :confused:

You should include more information on how she is shy, because on the other hand, it could be that her interest in you is low and she is using you to kill boredom...
 

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Fly By Night said:
If you are doing these things with her, she has to be somewhat open to you or else she would shove you off her when you did it. :confused:

You should include more information on how she is shy, because on the other hand, it could be that her interest in you is low and she is using you to kill boredom...

What i mean by shy is that she is not initiating any contact on her own , if i am doing Kino she has no problem and she is willing to do that like: kissing and so on...

I mean , if i give her a complements she smiles and get red :confused:
 

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Girls aren't supposed to initiate. Be a man and do whatever you want, take what you want, you're at the top of the food chain. A girl has to be VERY comfortable as well as a freak to initiate sh!t. I used to have a girl that would come over play with my whole body to get my c0ck hard, but I still had to whip it out and put it in her mouth. A girl WANTS to be told what to do, a girl WANTS a leader.

Do whatever you want until she stops you...she probably won't

Leading turns chicks on. Having to lead turns them off.

Also, she prob doesn't want you to think she's a slut. When she gets comfortable with you, like after you've banged her a few times. You can start discussing fantasies, like blowing your load on her face, having her ask you to do all the dirty things you already want to do her to her, and for her to be aggressive.
 

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Take her to your place, start out relaxed watching a movie or something in the living room. Within 10 minutes, get up, walk into your room. Come back out a minute later and ask her to come take a look at something (could be anything, new curtains work well for me). When she walks in, pick her up & toss her on your bed.

You'll have to do the rest.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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zorg198

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I Just finished talking with her and its looks like its was ended before it was started, she explained she never had a man who is mature and blah blah...

She said most of the guys she dated they were *******s and never call her and they say something and do something else , and i come and she is confused. i told her i will respect her decision whatever it will be.

she said thank you for not freaking out ...:confused:
 

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AFAICT, Shy girls are like this around guys they don't like.

You'll have to take the lead, which you should be doing anyway.

If a woman keeps being shy, she's not really interested.

I need more info to issue a verdict.
 

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zorg198 said:
I Just finished talking with her and its looks like its was ended before it was started, she explained she never had a man who is mature and blah blah...

She said most of the guys she dated they were *******s and never call her and they say something and do something else , and i come and she is confused. i told her i will respect her decision whatever it will be.

she said thank you for not freaking out ...:confused:
So yeah it sounds Flybynight was right. She wasn't shy you just weren't turning her on. And just like Young Jaun said a leader turns chicks on. A follower turns them off.

Lesson learned?
 

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nismo-4 said:
AFAICT, Shy girls are like this around guys they don't like.

You'll have to take the lead, which you should be doing anyway.

If a woman keeps being shy, she's not really interested.

I need more info to issue a verdict.

what info you need?
 

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zorg198 said:
what info you need?
Actually, none here. Read the above post And GhengisT's for your answer.

Also, remember to lead. Always. Alphas lead, Betas follow. :yes:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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zorg198

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nismo-4 said:
Actually, none here. Read the above post And GhengisT's for your answer.

Also, remember to lead. Always. Alphas lead, Betas follow. :yes:

Ok , nothing else to do is to move on and learn from my mistakes and improve..
 

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Shy girls? meh, dating chaff lol.. I don't get on with shy people in general, I think many such people have little justification for being so.
 

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zorg198 said:
She said most of the guys she dated they were *******s and never call her and they say something and do something else , and i come and she is confused. i told her i will respect her decision whatever it will be.
Every guy is supposed to treat her exactly the same way...no matter what? People have different personalities, look different, talk different, act different. You have to be able to adapt to them and what they offer, to see what you like and what you don't like.
 

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I want to understand what i did wrong, what information you guys think might turn her off?
 
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