"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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made out with some random girl last night...help

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So, I made out with some random last night, pretended like I was actually interested in her, and got her number. She was a really nice girl and all, but I am not interested in doing anything more with her. Unfortunately, she thinks I'm going to call her and hang out with her today (I was kinda drunk when this whole ordeal occurred).

How do I put her down gently? I mean, I could just not call her back, but isn't that kind of a **** move?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I mean, I could definitely **** her, but she's not that attractive and I don't want my first lay to be with a girl I'm not into. Kissing her felt like kissing my hand or some ****. She wanted to take me home last night, LOL.

Decisions, decisions...
 

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"Just be a man and don't call her"
 

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This chick is on the phone with one of her girlfriends right now, and this is the summary of the convo: "I made out with some guy last night, and I think I gave him my number. I almost went home with him! Just call my drunky-makeout-face lol. God, I hope he doesnt call! Dont they understand we're just having fun? I swear, you make out with some guy in the bar, and they like, think you're interested in them or something! What a fvcking creepazoid! Oh, well, if he calls, I'll just pretend I like him, and tell him I'll call him back, or just not show up for whatever date he plans. He'll take the hint eventually. Why should I make myself uncomfortable by explaining to him that I'm not interested? I'll just blow him off. Well, OI am kind of broke, and I've been craving sushi. Maybe I'll let him buy me sushi next week. I have a couple hours free on wednesday after my date with that drummer with the big c0ck. I'll be REALLY hungry after leaving his house! lol. Then I can use my 'tiredness' as an excuse to leave as soon as I'm done. Yeah, thats what I'll do."

But, you know, good for you for worrying about her feelings.:rolleyes:
 

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This chick is on the phone with one of her girlfriends right now, and this is the summary of the convo: "I made out with some guy last night, and I think I gave him my number. I almost went home with him! Just call my drunky-makeout-face lol. God, I hope he doesnt call! Dont they understand we're just having fun? I swear, you make out with some guy in the bar, and they like, think you're interested in them or something! What a fvcking creepazoid! Oh, well, if he calls, I'll just pretend I like him, and tell him I'll call him back, or just not show up for whatever date he plans. He'll take the hint eventually. Why should I make myself uncomfortable by explaining to him that I'm not interested? I'll just blow him off. Well, OI am kind of broke, and I've been craving sushi. Maybe I'll let him buy me sushi next week. I have a couple hours free on wednesday after my date with that drummer with the big c0ck. I'll be REALLY hungry after leaving his house! lol. Then I can use my 'tiredness' as an excuse to leave as soon as I'm done. Yeah, thats what I'll do."

But, you know, good for you for worrying about her feelings.
THIS. IS. GOLD :D
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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horaholic said:
This chick is on the phone with one of her girlfriends right now, and this is the summary of the convo: "I made out with some guy last night, and I think I gave him my number. I almost went home with him! Just call my drunky-makeout-face lol. God, I hope he doesnt call! Dont they understand we're just having fun? I swear, you make out with some guy in the bar, and they like, think you're interested in them or something! What a fvcking creepazoid! Oh, well, if he calls, I'll just pretend I like him, and tell him I'll call him back, or just not show up for whatever date he plans. He'll take the hint eventually. Why should I make myself uncomfortable by explaining to him that I'm not interested? I'll just blow him off. Well, OI am kind of broke, and I've been craving sushi. Maybe I'll let him buy me sushi next week. I have a couple hours free on wednesday after my date with that drummer with the big c0ck. I'll be REALLY hungry after leaving his house! lol. Then I can use my 'tiredness' as an excuse to leave as soon as I'm done. Yeah, thats what I'll do."

But, you know, good for you for worrying about her feelings.:rolleyes:
Haha, nice, man.

I won't be calling her. Come to think of it, this is a dumb thread.

As something only partially related...

how fast do you guys generally escalate in a club, bar, or party situation? the only reason i started making out with this girl is because i ran out of **** to say, knew it would get awkward plenty fast if I kept the current **** going, and earlier, my wing was telling me it's always good to get things going in a physical direction as soon as you can, so i wanted to take his advice (dude has banged 40+ girls so it's probably good advice).

basically, it seems like if a girl is going to let you put your arm around her (maybe she leaned in a bit, I dunno), you should probably be kissing her. **** man, so many mother****ing opportunities blown in my life. :cry: i mean, there was one right there at that party that obviously wanted me to hurry it up but i never did.

if i didn't have a ton of reports to finish tonight, i'd be in the ****ing club going into terminator mode right now. ahhhh
 

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Some gurus advise against making out with the girl in the bar. They claim it gives buyers remorse. What you want to do is keep it to a minimum. Tease her with what will come later. Turn her on with a kiss or two, then get her outta there!
 

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For me, there are three types of women... Ones I will date, ones I will just make out with, and ones I don't want.

I've made out with tons of random women at the bar with no intension of taking things further. The worst thing you can do with these women is ask for their number. It gives them the false hope for more. If she offers her number, just politely take it and make NO promises of when you're going to call her.

There were tons of nameless women I've screwed around with, and they were just as happy to have no commitment as I was. Just keep is as what it is - fun.
 

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I ran into two girls I've previously made out with in the bar last night. It was like it never happened.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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