"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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made out with some random girl last night...help

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So, I made out with some random last night, pretended like I was actually interested in her, and got her number. She was a really nice girl and all, but I am not interested in doing anything more with her. Unfortunately, she thinks I'm going to call her and hang out with her today (I was kinda drunk when this whole ordeal occurred).

How do I put her down gently? I mean, I could just not call her back, but isn't that kind of a **** move?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I mean, I could definitely **** her, but she's not that attractive and I don't want my first lay to be with a girl I'm not into. Kissing her felt like kissing my hand or some ****. She wanted to take me home last night, LOL.

Decisions, decisions...
 

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"Just be a man and don't call her"
 

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This chick is on the phone with one of her girlfriends right now, and this is the summary of the convo: "I made out with some guy last night, and I think I gave him my number. I almost went home with him! Just call my drunky-makeout-face lol. God, I hope he doesnt call! Dont they understand we're just having fun? I swear, you make out with some guy in the bar, and they like, think you're interested in them or something! What a fvcking creepazoid! Oh, well, if he calls, I'll just pretend I like him, and tell him I'll call him back, or just not show up for whatever date he plans. He'll take the hint eventually. Why should I make myself uncomfortable by explaining to him that I'm not interested? I'll just blow him off. Well, OI am kind of broke, and I've been craving sushi. Maybe I'll let him buy me sushi next week. I have a couple hours free on wednesday after my date with that drummer with the big c0ck. I'll be REALLY hungry after leaving his house! lol. Then I can use my 'tiredness' as an excuse to leave as soon as I'm done. Yeah, thats what I'll do."

But, you know, good for you for worrying about her feelings.:rolleyes:
 

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This chick is on the phone with one of her girlfriends right now, and this is the summary of the convo: "I made out with some guy last night, and I think I gave him my number. I almost went home with him! Just call my drunky-makeout-face lol. God, I hope he doesnt call! Dont they understand we're just having fun? I swear, you make out with some guy in the bar, and they like, think you're interested in them or something! What a fvcking creepazoid! Oh, well, if he calls, I'll just pretend I like him, and tell him I'll call him back, or just not show up for whatever date he plans. He'll take the hint eventually. Why should I make myself uncomfortable by explaining to him that I'm not interested? I'll just blow him off. Well, OI am kind of broke, and I've been craving sushi. Maybe I'll let him buy me sushi next week. I have a couple hours free on wednesday after my date with that drummer with the big c0ck. I'll be REALLY hungry after leaving his house! lol. Then I can use my 'tiredness' as an excuse to leave as soon as I'm done. Yeah, thats what I'll do."

But, you know, good for you for worrying about her feelings.
THIS. IS. GOLD :D
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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horaholic said:
This chick is on the phone with one of her girlfriends right now, and this is the summary of the convo: "I made out with some guy last night, and I think I gave him my number. I almost went home with him! Just call my drunky-makeout-face lol. God, I hope he doesnt call! Dont they understand we're just having fun? I swear, you make out with some guy in the bar, and they like, think you're interested in them or something! What a fvcking creepazoid! Oh, well, if he calls, I'll just pretend I like him, and tell him I'll call him back, or just not show up for whatever date he plans. He'll take the hint eventually. Why should I make myself uncomfortable by explaining to him that I'm not interested? I'll just blow him off. Well, OI am kind of broke, and I've been craving sushi. Maybe I'll let him buy me sushi next week. I have a couple hours free on wednesday after my date with that drummer with the big c0ck. I'll be REALLY hungry after leaving his house! lol. Then I can use my 'tiredness' as an excuse to leave as soon as I'm done. Yeah, thats what I'll do."

But, you know, good for you for worrying about her feelings.:rolleyes:
Haha, nice, man.

I won't be calling her. Come to think of it, this is a dumb thread.

As something only partially related...

how fast do you guys generally escalate in a club, bar, or party situation? the only reason i started making out with this girl is because i ran out of **** to say, knew it would get awkward plenty fast if I kept the current **** going, and earlier, my wing was telling me it's always good to get things going in a physical direction as soon as you can, so i wanted to take his advice (dude has banged 40+ girls so it's probably good advice).

basically, it seems like if a girl is going to let you put your arm around her (maybe she leaned in a bit, I dunno), you should probably be kissing her. **** man, so many mother****ing opportunities blown in my life. :cry: i mean, there was one right there at that party that obviously wanted me to hurry it up but i never did.

if i didn't have a ton of reports to finish tonight, i'd be in the ****ing club going into terminator mode right now. ahhhh
 

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Some gurus advise against making out with the girl in the bar. They claim it gives buyers remorse. What you want to do is keep it to a minimum. Tease her with what will come later. Turn her on with a kiss or two, then get her outta there!
 

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For me, there are three types of women... Ones I will date, ones I will just make out with, and ones I don't want.

I've made out with tons of random women at the bar with no intension of taking things further. The worst thing you can do with these women is ask for their number. It gives them the false hope for more. If she offers her number, just politely take it and make NO promises of when you're going to call her.

There were tons of nameless women I've screwed around with, and they were just as happy to have no commitment as I was. Just keep is as what it is - fun.
 

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I ran into two girls I've previously made out with in the bar last night. It was like it never happened.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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