"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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made out with a girl and whatsapp

pyros

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Hello.

I made out twice with this girl who lives in another city, 500km away, she was visiting my city with some friends, and two days before that we made out one night, and went to the beach the next day, made out there...she said that she'd like to stay here with me etc.

Now we've been talking a couple of times via whatssapp. Today she initiated the chat (like usually) and since me and my friends are planning a trip to her city and some others, I said to her: 'you know I may be visiting your city.'
to what she did not reply and kept talking. We talked for an our with many pauses for a couple of minutes etc (you know how whatsapp works). Kept it funy, light, but maybe to light. She did not ask me any personal questions, neither did I ask her. Just silly funy stuff.

Now, I believe she did not comment on my anouncement ( I got bit dissapointed lol) because either of these:

A) She's back with her ex (they broke up four months ago) so she has no interest.
B) She has no interest in me now just because.
C) Test. (likely)

I did not say it again during our chat, or asked her if she read me, and since the conversation was 'a bit' boring, when I said bye she said: hey, I'm trying to study but I'll bother you later ^^


P.S.

Could it be that she missed what I wrote? about me going there? (I doubt it)
now I am not gonna say it twice, I'll wait to see if she reminds it, or re reads or whatever, and if she does not, once I'm in her city I may text her to let her know...? I'm going in four weeks.

She's an 8.


tips? opinions?

Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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She might be missed it, this apps don't work some time
bring it while you were talking on the phone not texting. See how it goes!
 

pyros

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yeah, ???

I find it weird that all my messages were delivered ok but this one....

steps to proceed? remind her next time we talk? remind her once im in her city?
 

Mantis Toboggan

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pyros said:
yeah, ???

I find it weird that all my messages were delivered ok but this one....

steps to proceed? remind her next time we talk? remind her once im in her city?
Text her when you're in the city.

She definitely saw that you said you're going to be there. If there's anything that women are good at, it's noticing every little detail in your communication with them (so they can throw it in your face at a later time).

Either way, I wouldn't put a lot of effort into this one. Making out with a girl isn't a big deal. They do that sh*t out of boredom. If she wants to see you, she'll find a way to show up.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I just wanted to update this thread:

IN the end, we met, made out a lot etc, rubbed her tits, but nothing else happened because:
1. We did not have anywhere private to go
2. I did not push for sex (I was too "inactive" at that time)

She asked me when we were gonna meet again, I said that I may go to her city in a month...she looked disapointed.

Its been two years or so and we have not spoken again, eventhough I have her on FB.
 
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