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LTR Screening: What's your top 5?

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We all know women have a checklist they run through when evaluating for LTR/exclusivity. The list tends to get longer with more mileage and age. The chief items on her list are going to be LMS, everything else is cherry on top.

I do my best to evaluate behavior and be aware of red flags early on in the STR so I screen for things that are important. For example, how is her relationship with her parents? Is she financially stable? Is she emotionally stable? Is she emotionally available? Is she a spiritual person or attend church ever?

With that in mind, think of your top 5 qualities you look for in a women. If your main plate gets 3/5 or less, you'll have to make a decision to settle/compromise or continue your search for a better option.
 

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in order of importance:

1. sex drive and kinkiness. this is obvious, a woman that can't give you good sex often is like a job that infrequently pays you and pays you very little. or a class in school that teaches you nothing but doesn't help your GPA. I need a woman who can keep me interested, I should watch porn for inspiration, not because my girl is too boring to do anything fun so I need to watch the professionals. Not having a decent sex drive is an instant non-contestable dump, because in addition to being a terrible trait it's a sign of critically low interest.

2. faithfulness/loyalty. despite the above I desire a woman that I can leave alone for 5 minutes without walking in on her in an orgy with the mail man and the milk man with the ice cream guy recording. I want a woman I can trust to live life without me once in a while (you know what's better than forbidding your girl to go out or go on vacation without you? having a girl that isn't going to get cummed in by 5 guys the moment you can't see her). but even more important than that I do not want to feel like she'll replace me at any second and I can never rest or else she'll leave me alone to be in an LTR with the next one suddenly

3. not being crazy. nothing worse than a woman that loves to fight or cause drama or is incapable of logical thought or overreacts severely (you don't want her pulling a knife on you or threatening to kill herself because she doesn't believe that girl commenting on your photos is your cousin) or has no control of her temper... etc.

4. not being a total b!tch, I despise a woman that gives too much attitude or gets offended easily or is ungrateful + demanding or pissed off easily or is ghetto and loud, anything like that. I don't need no high maintenance princesses or real housewives wannabes

5. having an actual personalty/not being boring or humorless. the last thing I need is a woman who can't take a joke, can't make a joke, has nothing to talk about because they never do anything, and doesn't have enough of a functioning brain to give you much of a response to the things you say. (I know a lot of girls who love to give one word responses even if they like you and can't answer a question if it requires them to think at all)

So far I have never found all 5 traits in a single person, so I focus on 1 and 5 and short term non-serious relationships
 

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1) Values - Part one of the holy trinity of predictors of relationship success. Loyalty, family, friends, respect, manners. Any woman with shallow priorities like constant Facebook posts, instagram pictures, hittin' the clubs should be immediately discounted as LTR potential. Not saying don't go have fun with those girls but if you want a woman for an LTR she should be the kind of woman who shows up on time, says please and thank you, respects everyone around her and puts her friends and family before herself.

2) Mental Health - Part two of the trinity of relationship success. Most people have some struggles with depression and anxiety, but if you notice anything above average about a woman's mental health, like self harm, horrible depression, drinking excessively, drugs, then chances are she'll be an unstable partner.

3) Communication - Part three of the trinity. It's very unlikely you will find a woman who is on par with you emotionally. Despite how politically incorrect it is, estrogen makes women more emotional. If you want proof, go google about people going through HRT (hormone replacement therapy). They experience the extremes of male and female hormones. So what you want is not necessarily a woman who has perfect emotional stability but one who can move beyond that and discuss things calmly. She should be able to communicate her feelings clearly, she should be able to ask for things she wants and tell you when she doesn't want something. This is massive in the bedroom too.

4) Personality - Has actual hobbies, actual goals, is friendly and has a good sense of humor. She should be able to take a little bit of ribbing like the boys and give it back to you as well. Having similar hobbies isn't really as important as being able to have some fun while just sitting in a silent room. I won't go on to much about this as some of it is personal taste. But if you settle with a boring woman because she's hot, you will eventually get bored and so will she.

5) Impulse Control - No excessive drinking, drugs, shopping, gambling, sex, risky behavior, emotional instability etc etc etc. Basically anything which looks like a woman is abandoning her better judgement to "have fun" or "be free" is a personality trait that is absolutely guaranteed to bite you in the ass. Very high risk for infidelity or monkey branching, dragging you into drama, swallowing you in debt, getting bored with you. These behaviors are symptomatic of number two but it's an important trait in its own right.

You guys have seen me do similar lists with more traits but honestly these five are the big ones. Find a woman who is moderate to strong in all of these and she's highly likely to make a decent partner. If she is weak in any one of these you should proceed with extreme caution. Of course people lie and people change so nothing is a guarantee.
 

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I basically go for women are easy going/easy to talk to, aren't super materialistic (i have no problem if they want and spend money to look "nice" but i mean louie vuiton designer bull****, chicks that are sheep and pretend to be rich to keep up with the jones'), ambitious - doesn't have to be aiming to be a chemical engineer, just simply has a goal for the future and is willing to pursue it if it will put her in a better position, isn't a slut obviously & lastly is reliable.

I should basically be able to consider her a "best friend". This I have done with all of the girlfriends I have had and most even after break up have remained on good terms with me.

If the woman doesn't tick all the boxes I won't be interested.
 

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1. good sex
2. funny/intelligent/personality I click with
3. career
4. not a ho/many orbiters
5. pretty face with good ass/thighs
 

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Have you experienced this post red pill? The Peace of Mind? I thought I found it once and I turned out I was oh so wrong.
In my experience the red pill makes it much easier because you can tell when a girl is no longer yours if you're paying attention.

I can practically sense when trouble is afoot like spiderman because most girls are obvious about it.

If the sex starts drying up, if she has certain behaviors positive or negative that signal investment that weaken, etc. And you haven't done anything, you know what to expect and prepare for.

The ones I want to avoid are the ones that are practically bi-polar that everything is going fine today, they drop off the face of the earth tomorrow, they've got a new love of their life the day after.

And of course the ones that will dump you for a guy 2 inches taller with only $1000 more in the bank, no reason to get invested in a girl like that.
 

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In my experience the red pill makes it much easier because you can tell when a girl is no longer yours if you're paying attention.

I can practically sense when trouble is afoot like spiderman because most girls are obvious about it.

If the sex starts drying up, if she has certain behaviors positive or negative that signal investment that weaken, etc. And you haven't done anything, you know what to expect and prepare for.

The ones I want to avoid are the ones that are practically bi-polar that everything is going fine today, they drop off the face of the earth tomorrow, they've got a new love of their life the day after.

And of course the ones that will dump you for a guy 2 inches taller with only $1000 more in the bank, no reason to get invested in a girl like that.
For me all red pill did was enforce standards. Even at my worst ad most angriest I knew there were good women in the world. There's never been a time were I wrote off like 90% of womankind...it's easy to fall into that trap when you read some of the bull**** online. If anything it made me realize as every guy should realize - you are the one who has to go out and make things happen/will take all the risks. You will probably also outearn whoever you are with - if she fails to make the grade it is NO LOSS>
 

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Imo a women's character or values is basically a combination of her mother, grandmother and aunts wisdom/values.

Observe her and her mother's value system:

1. I make my observations when I eat at her place. How she treats the men in her family. Does she prepare their food and set the table? Respectful towards the father and elder brothers? It's a good indicator of how she'll treat you later on after the initial stage of the relationship.

2. Dressing, in any social setting; exposes too much skin or modest yet feminine ?Another good indicator.

3. Hobbies, as in daily, a women needs to be occupied. Does she have any? If it's IG, selfies, FB every 30 mins then dismiss ASAP. If she does gardening, has pets or anything that's considered feminine then it's a good sign.

4. Willingness to get her hand dirty. Indicator of a woman who's not afraid to get things done herself when times are hard.

5. Clubbing/Nightlife; If she does it on a weekly or even on a monthly basis; dismiss ASAP.

6. Alcohol/Drug abuse; dismiss immediately without a second thought. Don't try to rationalise it.

These are basically what I tick off before considering for an LTR with women.

Women who has values as the above are considered LTR/Wife potential.
 

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Giver - a true giver will do things for a man and not keep count. She may request more attention. But she will give all of herself to a relationship. The nongivers are the quickest to show their hand.

Gratitude - she is grateful for life, her family, her health, and will often result in giving

Humble - she likes attention but doesn't need attention. She is modest with everything in life, and it comes from a genuine place in her heart that cares. It requires a significant amount of intelligence to realize the value of being humble.

Cooperation - in relationships, you have tyrants, slaves, or negotiators. Negotiation is difficult, and many are incapable of it until they mature.

Open - she has to have an open mind with everything in life. Try a new restaurant

These qualities will ensure other basic superficial things like being funny, good in bed, etc.
 

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You guys mentioned most of what I screen for, so I'll just add these 2

1. women who have been raped before- they
have huge problems emotionally, and always dress half naked anywhere they go

2. women who curse at their kids- it's just really bad behavior to me period
 

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Which includes all of the above. And they keep themselves nice. Fatness is seen as lazy/shameful. @backbreaker how's things going with your girl?
 

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in order of importance:

1. sex drive and kinkiness. this is obvious, a woman that can't give you good sex often is like a job that infrequently pays you and pays you very little. or a class in school that teaches you nothing but doesn't help your GPA. I need a woman who can keep me interested, I should watch porn for inspiration, not because my girl is too boring to do anything fun so I need to watch the professionals. Not having a decent sex drive is an instant non-contestable dump, because in addition to being a terrible trait it's a sign of critically low interest.

2. faithfulness/loyalty. despite the above I desire a woman that I can leave alone for 5 minutes without walking in on her in an orgy with the mail man and the milk man with the ice cream guy recording. I want a woman I can trust to live life without me once in a while (you know what's better than forbidding your girl to go out or go on vacation without you? having a girl that isn't going to get cummed in by 5 guys the moment you can't see her). but even more important than that I do not want to feel like she'll replace me at any second and I can never rest or else she'll leave me alone to be in an LTR with the next one suddenly

3. not being crazy. nothing worse than a woman that loves to fight or cause drama or is incapable of logical thought or overreacts severely (you don't want her pulling a knife on you or threatening to kill herself because she doesn't believe that girl commenting on your photos is your cousin) or has no control of her temper... etc.

4. not being a total b!tch, I despise a woman that gives too much attitude or gets offended easily or is ungrateful + demanding or pissed off easily or is ghetto and loud, anything like that. I don't need no high maintenance princesses or real housewives wannabes

5. having an actual personalty/not being boring or humorless. the last thing I need is a woman who can't take a joke, can't make a joke, has nothing to talk about because they never do anything, and doesn't have enough of a functioning brain to give you much of a response to the things you say. (I know a lot of girls who love to give one word responses even if they like you and can't answer a question if it requires them to think at all)

So far I have never found all 5 traits in a single person, so I focus on 1 and 5 and short term non-serious relationships
#2 > #1
 

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Well they're both inarguable long term relationship deal breakers for me. The difference is that #1 makes a good STR or FWB or plate.

If a girl wasn't loyal and faithful I'd either never trust her and spend the whole thing paranoid and looking over my shoulder to not get cucked, or I'd be heartbroken and devastated when I found out my love had been ****ing chad for half the relationship

But if she's boring sexually there would be a 90% chance that I'd get bored and frustrated and dump her. Why bother with a girl who can't even get the most basic and important aspect of a relationship right? I sure as hell won't be the guy who watches anal porn all night because his wife has a """headache""" because i could do that without a wife, so who needs her? Plus I've found that most women are intolerable if you stop enjoying the sex. And if she has more turn offs than turn ons, you'll stop enjoying the sex in like 3 months tops.

I guess the difference is who breaks up with who.

Although I guess a deficiency in #1 would be fine if it was some kinda weird relationship where i could bang other chicks on the side.
 

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Careful. What you think of as the result of a poor relationship may be the cause of it. The use of pornography is currently destroying thousands of relationships.
 

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If a girl wasn't loyal and faithful I'd either never trust her and spend the whole thing paranoid and looking over my shoulder to not get cucked, or I'd be heartbroken and devastated when I found out my love had been ****ing chad for half the relationship.
I had paranoid thoughts that was happening after months of an enforced dry spell (by her) when I was married thinking she had a side chad when she traveled over seas for work for 2-4 weeks near the last few years together. That and starfish sex was dread game.

I felt emasculated and if I put my foot down or stood up, I was seen as passive aggressive, chauvinist, jerk. I don’t miss those years. Good god. So much happier now that I regained my self-confidence and self-esteem.

Mutual respect and effective communication is paramount in a LTR.
 

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I have a type for looks, but have been a lot more open minded regarding personality.

That being said, these i've found raise massive red flags to me for further down the line, no matter how rosy things appear at the outset:

1. Homosexuality (anything more than a kiss on a night out)
2. Perpetual singledom (something's nearly always badly off with her)
3. Single mummery
4. Lack of female friends, and/or preference for male friends
5. Massive ott extroversion (that's just a personal preference. Can't be dealing with it, but nothing particularly wrong with it either)
Perpetual singledom is bad, but so is having a recent breakup with an ex. There’s always the threat you’re the rebound and she’ll go back.
 

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2. Perpetual singledom (something's nearly always badly off with her)
It depends on if she's single against her will or not.

There's a difference between her being single despite trying and failing to get a man for the last year, and her being single because she does things other than try to bang guys or because she doesn't get much exposure to guys (like an all girls christian college or she works 60 hours a week at a beauty salon)

Either way it's way better than that dumb theory that used to be floating around that quality girls are never single so if you want one you need to steal her from someone else, because a girl that can be stolen is the worst hot potato to try and hold

4. Lack of female friends, and/or preference for male friends
Similar concept here, if she can't get along with women that's likely a problem, but if she's a hardcore video game player or something she won't have many female friends because it's a male dominated hobby.
 

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1. Cexual, does she give me a boner? Cexual look in her eyes. Cexxxx
2. Good, round ass.
3. Fun, positive mindset.
4. Caring for animals and kids.
5. Cooking swagggg, skills in the kitchen. I need my stomach filled...
 

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It depends on if she's single against her will or not.

There's a difference between her being single despite trying and failing to get a man for the last year, and her being single because she does things other than try to bang guys or because she doesn't get much exposure to guys (like an all girls christian college or she works 60 hours a week at a beauty salon)

Either way it's way better than that dumb theory that used to be floating around that quality girls are never single so if you want one you need to steal her from someone else, because a girl that can be stolen is the worst hot potato to try and hold



Similar concept here, if she can't get along with women that's likely a problem, but if she's a hardcore video game player or something she won't have many female friends because it's a male dominated hobby.
The best girls are the ones who just moved to a new city. They tend to be single for a reason other than being damaged goods.
 
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