LTR ended...

[Deleted member 147541]

Hi gents,

So it happened. My LTR ended. Just wanted to give a brief synopsis as I think it’s pretty interesting and amusing. Some classic Red Pill truths in here...

I met this girl nearly 3 years ago. 25, HB8, from a traditional Hindu family. She was a plate for over a year and in that time I dropped her and picked her up a couple of times. After I ended things with an ex she remained a plate for another 6 months. Things reached a head when we had the ‘where is this going?’ chat and I went away to consider what I wanted from this for a month before deciding I wanted to LTR her. So we were in an LTR for 18 months.

Fast forward to 2 months ago and she admits that she hated the way I plated her for so long. Her sisters have a talk to her along the lines of ‘you need a good, Hindu (beta) boy not this guy who uses you’ and she becomes insecure. Starts throwing around comfort tests which I deal with. Over the last few weeks she’s been wanting to ‘forget all the negativity and move forward’ (ie. ignore her sisters destructive feminist rants).

Well she couldn’t and she ends it. I walk away. One week later she’s all over me telling me ‘I just compare all other guys to you’ etc.

The power of sisters and the female hamster!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Well, I mean you obviously didn't view her as LTR material from the get go so can you blame her?

Nobody ghosts someone they want to be in a relationship with when they sit down and have a talk.

That is a very immature way of communicating. Obviously she was highly attracted for it to last that long but ultimately she knew from the get go it wasn't going anywhere and she just needed time to emotionally break it off.

 

[Deleted member 147541]

Well, I mean you obviously didn't view her as LTR material from the get go so can you blame her?

Nobody ghosts someone they want to be in a relationship with when they sit down and have a talk.

That is a very immature way of communicating. Obviously she was highly attracted for it to last that long but ultimately she knew from the get go it wasn't going anywhere and she just needed time to emotionally break it off.

Fair comment, but maybe I should have put that better. I told her I needed some time to consider things rather than just ghosting her straight up. Poor use of language from my side.

 

[darksprezzatura]

I fail to understand this one thing.

What's the difference between a plate and an LTR?

Is it just the agreement to be monogamous verbally?

Usually put forth by a girl?

Does it even happen these days?

Don't long term plates kind of resemble LTR?
(hence long term relationship)

imo any mindset that confines your freedom is cucked, no guy would prefer his options restricted, agreeing to monogamy is operating in the woman's frame.

LTRs are essentially losing your frame.

No wonder they don't last.

In my experience everyone's spinning plates - girls and guys alike

 

[Atom Smasher]

I think “plate” usually means one plate in a four course dinner.

 

[Bigpapa]

The problem on your side is attainability . She thinks that you are not attainable for her

in order for things to be somehow healthy you have to walk on the very thin line between being too attainable ( not a challenging ) and low attainable ( too much of a challenge )

attainability is very important for Ltrs

I think that you will be able to turn her around , but if you like her enough you will have to work on being more attainable

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Hi gents,

So it happened. My LTR ended. Just wanted to give a brief synopsis as I think it’s pretty interesting and amusing. Some classic Red Pill truths in here...

I met this girl nearly 3 years ago. 25, HB8, from a traditional Hindu family. She was a plate for over a year and in that time I dropped her and picked her up a couple of times. After I ended things with an ex she remained a plate for another 6 months. Things reached a head when we had the ‘where is this going?’ chat and I went away to consider what I wanted from this for a month before deciding I wanted to LTR her. So we were in an LTR for 18 months.

Fast forward to 2 months ago and she admits that she hated the way I plated her for so long. Her sisters have a talk to her along the lines of ‘you need a good, Hindu (beta) boy not this guy who uses you’ and she becomes insecure. Starts throwing around comfort tests which I deal with. Over the last few weeks she’s been wanting to ‘forget all the negativity and move forward’ (ie. ignore her sisters destructive feminist rants).

Well she couldn’t and she ends it. I walk away. One week later she’s all over me telling me ‘I just compare all other guys to you’ etc.

The power of sisters and the female hamster!

You could be in a divorce rapey scenario where baby mama drama. You are out free. Thank God. You are a bachelor
#winning #next #HardFlex

Women will claw out the eyes of every man, women, and children to get to the alpha male. It's even more apparent in the modern world. The following is why men must keep their game sharp regardless of cheating or not. The doubt must be there and seeded via demonstration.

My favorite rsd nation poster is Ambi. Some black lad who would have long winded ****y posts about approaching, flirting, leading women on, and dropping them off because he has a gf. Just push the limits to pulling just because. He argued that it kept his game tight. Would troll with pics and referred to himself as the black Brad pit. ****y ****.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Well, I mean you obviously didn't view her as LTR material from the get go so can you blame her?

Nobody ghosts someone they want to be in a relationship with when they sit down and have a talk.

That is a very immature way of communicating. Obviously she was highly attracted for it to last that long but ultimately she knew from the get go it wasn't going anywhere and she just needed time to emotionally break it off.

Game mate, I do this all the time. The more the girls sweet, from nuclear family, the more immature, and sociopathic my game is. The girls are not oriented right these days. They need to be put in check and taste the sweet L men know all too well.

I flip the script. I don't chase. I replace. #nextset FTW! IMHO op ex wanted any excuse and she is likely getting her **** pushed in atm.

Icy as ****kk. Fellas need to go full Patrick Bateman on the world minus murder lulz. Absolutely savage in the game. Comply or bye. Ruthless with your time.

Provider male is not a good look nor being responsible.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The problem on your side

There is no problem on his side. The problem is on her side. You don't need to read much more into it (in this case) than what was already said in the original post itself.

Problem was her sisters/family; inb4 female herd creature mentality. Women are affected by what others much more so than men. They simply conform to social pressure more readily than men do. Because of that, her relationship went down the toilet. Not only that, but now she's f*cked in the head forever, because while her family is disapproving of OP, she still wants him.

Her instincts are pressuring her to conform while also compelling her capture this man. This is where female cognitive dissonance comes from.

 

[Bigpapa]

There is no problem on his side. The problem is on her side. You don't need to read much more into it (in this case) than what was already said in the original post itself.

Problem was her sisters/family; inb4 female herd creature mentality. Women are affected by what others much more so than men. They simply conform to social pressure more readily than men do. Because of that, her relationship went down the toilet. Not only that, but now she's f*cked in the head forever, because while her family is disapproving of OP, she still wants him.

Her instincts are pressuring her to conform while also compelling her capture this man. This is where female cognitive dissonance comes from.

yeah , the problem is on her side mainly , but if she did not agree with her family she would have defended him . This is what women do

if he likes her , he just has to be warmer towards her so she does feel that he is way above her

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

I think “plate” usually means one plate in a four course dinner.

a plate spinner , spins plate's on thin sticks, some plates may fall while some have enough momentum to be spun with minimal effort.
you can choose to let some plates fall if they arent ''spinning correctly ...
wobbly or inconsistent.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Hi gents,

So it happened. My LTR ended. Just wanted to give a brief synopsis as I think it’s pretty interesting and amusing. Some classic Red Pill truths in here...

I met this girl nearly 3 years ago. 25, HB8, from a traditional Hindu family. She was a plate for over a year and in that time I dropped her and picked her up a couple of times. After I ended things with an ex she remained a plate for another 6 months. Things reached a head when we had the ‘where is this going?’ chat and I went away to consider what I wanted from this for a month before deciding I wanted to LTR her. So we were in an LTR for 18 months.

Fast forward to 2 months ago and she admits that she hated the way I plated her for so long. Her sisters have a talk to her along the lines of ‘you need a good, Hindu (beta) boy not this guy who uses you’ and she becomes insecure. Starts throwing around comfort tests which I deal with. Over the last few weeks she’s been wanting to ‘forget all the negativity and move forward’ (ie. ignore her sisters destructive feminist rants).

Well she couldn’t and she ends it. I walk away. One week later she’s all over me telling me ‘I just compare all other guys to you’ etc.

The power of sisters and the female hamster!

listen, they always hate being ''plated '' because this is a way of **** testing them, its saying that you are not willing and or in a hurry to commit, she is not the only ''one'' .
sisters and mothers are either ****blockers or cannon fodder blue pill nonsense , aka beta makers.
the ''where is this going chat'' is a breakthrough of communication, women usually dont communicate overtly like this , they are much more conservative and covert. this means you pushed her to the point of ''opening up to you'' no nonsense, you win.
but her sisters are most likely very overbearing , what kind of comfort test did she throw at you?
how did you pass?

i would plate her again and wouldnt get too involved cause she already showed weakness to her sister's cannon fodder, but the choice is yours

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I fail to understand this one thing.

What's the difference between a plate and an LTR?

Is it just the agreement to be monogamous verbally?

Usually put forth by a girl?

Does it even happen these days?

Don't long term plates kind of resemble LTR?
(hence long term relationship)

imo any mindset that confines your freedom is cucked, no guy would prefer his options restricted, agreeing to monogamy is operating in the woman's frame.

LTRs are essentially losing your frame.

No wonder they don't last.

In my experience everyone's spinning plates - girls and guys alike

Red pill is correct. Not your girl (zero responsibility) just your turn.

Nice post. It's my crique to red pill. I can understand that they want kids but it sets a weird precedence in marrying but telling others to do otherwise. I agree men and women have conflicting sexual strategies, and while women's take a more complex approach in optomise hypergamy plus seek a fail safe as smv craters, men more often than not concede.

Evolution of desire is a fascinating thing to read. I concur. Men and women are promiscuous but females tend to be more savage and cunning for serial monogamy. Not particularly Poly though its being pushed in the culture. It's a mitigation of declining smv.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

yeah , the problem is on her side mainly , but if she did not agree with her family she would have defended him . This is what women do

if he likes her , he just has to be warmer towards her so she does feel that he is way above her

You can assume that she did defend him because that’s just what people do when someone they’re attracted to is attacked—especially women. Women always make excuses for being with men who treat them like crap, it makes no sense for this situation to somehow be different. Just because she succumbed to the pressure doesn’t mean she didn’t argue with them. If she liked him in the beginning, and still likes him now despite not even being with him anymore, then we know he isn’t doing anything wrong. It’s just her family. She simply chose to conform to her family’s desire i.e. her social environment rather than to be with OP. He shouldn’t have to compromise being a little bit more beta just so that her family can like him more. They already have preconceived notions about him and have made up their mind, so being “warmer” (i.e. a simp) will do nothing except kill the attraction she has for him.

 

[bat soup]

Hi gents,

So it happened. My LTR ended. Just wanted to give a brief synopsis as I think it’s pretty interesting and amusing. Some classic Red Pill truths in here...

I met this girl nearly 3 years ago. 25, HB8, from a traditional Hindu family. She was a plate for over a year and in that time I dropped her and picked her up a couple of times. After I ended things with an ex she remained a plate for another 6 months. Things reached a head when we had the ‘where is this going?’ chat and I went away to consider what I wanted from this for a month before deciding I wanted to LTR her. So we were in an LTR for 18 months.

Fast forward to 2 months ago and she admits that she hated the way I plated her for so long. Her sisters have a talk to her along the lines of ‘you need a good, Hindu (beta) boy not this guy who uses you’ and she becomes insecure. Starts throwing around comfort tests which I deal with. Over the last few weeks she’s been wanting to ‘forget all the negativity and move forward’ (ie. ignore her sisters destructive feminist rants).

Well she couldn’t and she ends it. I walk away. One week later she’s all over me telling me ‘I just compare all other guys to you’ etc.

The power of sisters and the female hamster!

Stay cool and you can probably continue to bang her every time she's feeling lonesome. However, ultimately if you're not the one to wife her up someone else will because most women have the long-term objective of getting married and having kids.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I fail to understand this one thing.

What's the difference between a plate and an LTR?

Is it just the agreement to be monogamous verbally?

Usually put forth by a girl?

Does it even happen these days?

Don't long term plates kind of resemble LTR?
(hence long term relationship)

imo any mindset that confines your freedom is cucked, no guy would prefer his options restricted, agreeing to monogamy is operating in the woman's frame.

LTRs are essentially losing your frame.

No wonder they don't last.

In my experience everyone's spinning plates - girls and guys alike

Mainly exclusivity and seriousness of the relationship. Plates tend to break after a few months because women typically want a commitment or they feel like they are wasting their time and often times guys won't give them that while simultaneously acting shocked that she left. Just shows they have a very poor understanding of relationship dynamics and/or relationship management skills past initial attraction.

OK...so you are able to get a lot of women interested in you for a period of time but the next level is keeping them interested even when you DON'T give them what they seek in you. That is next level. They know they will never have what they want but they still want to see you on your terms. Very few guys are successful with this. Most tend to make up excuses or justify why they just keep cycling women in and out. The truly successful ones do that to a degree but will also have long term plates still seeing them.

Long term plates CAN resemble a relationship but again commitment to it is the key...and there are very few truly long plate relationships out there.

 

[Bigpapa]

Mainly exclusivity and seriousness of the relationship. Plates tend to break after a few months because women typically want a commitment or they feel like they are wasting their time and often times guys won't give them that while simultaneously acting shocked that she left. Just shows they have a very poor understanding of relationship dynamics and/or relationship management skills past initial attraction.

OK...so you are able to get a lot of women interested in you for a period of time but the next level is keeping them interested even when you DON'T give them what they seek in you. That is next level. They know they will never have what they want but they still want to see you on your terms. Very few guys are successful with this. Most tend to make up excuses or justify why they just keep cycling women in and out. The truly successful ones do that to a degree but will also have long term plates still seeing them.

Long term plates CAN resemble a relationship but again commitment to it is the key...and there are very few truly long plate relationships out there.

yeah , guys who can not keep girls around for a long period of time are only interested in the thrill .

I would say that this equals the woman behavior with trying to have hordes of thirsty men following them on Social media , it is useless but makes them feel good

 

[BackInTheGame78]

yeah , guys who can not keep girls around for a long period of time are only interested in the thrill .

I would say that this equals the woman behavior with trying to have hordes of thirsty men following them on Social media , it is useless but makes them feel good

No it goes way deeper than that. They are completely different skillsets to have and many times has less to do with wanting to and more to do with being able to.

 

[Lookatu]

What's the difference between a plate and an LTR?

For me at least for LTR's: It's higher level of emotional and time investment, LTR's I hold to higher standard in how they take care of themselves, think, ideology, compliance, shared values, traits, etc.

Basically plates are mainly for sex and as long as there is no drama and no flaking, it's all good and I don't think any more of it.

 

[Bigpapa]

No it goes way deeper than that. They are completely different skillsets to have and many times has less to do with wanting to and more to do with being able to.

i would say that is the same thing when it comes to the women .

they are trying to substitute the attention of really attractive guy with the attention of horny low value men .

if she is at least average , I am quite sure that she has a decent amount of good options around , but she can not keep them interested for long due to her bad attitude ( “ men should accept whatever because I am awesome )