"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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STR8UP said:
But does it matter what the "reason" is?

If a puff of wind causes a woman to lose attraction for a man it's the same as him being unfaithful or beating the crap out of her as far as the health of the relationship beyond that point.

ANY woman has the potential to lose her attraction to a man for reasons that might not be considered "valid". He might even be a great guy, and she might WANT to continue to see him as a suitable mate, but she really has no control over that.
It depends upon what that attraction is based.

If it's mostly sexual or masculine/feminine attraction, then yes, eventually she'll look elsewhere or just get bored with it altogether.

That's why you don't just marry a woman because you're "attracted" to her. Attraction and love come and go. You find someone that you know the two of you will enjoy spending a LONG time together, and who will make a good mother for your kids.

If your wife cheats on you, you picked the wrong wife for the wrong reasons.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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edger said:
You mention "outside factors"..are you refering to her friends, family, etc.?
As in, anything but her "significant other".
 

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ketostix said:
Str8Up, that was me that posted the link to the women author about women's infidelty. What I found amazing is that a woman could be so honest about her own "unjustifiable" actions and to basically come out and say the "matrix" is wrong about women's sexuality and relationships, and women do not have more loyality or integrity in relationships basically.
And yet so many guys like to continue to pretend that they do.

I am thankful that I no longer have those delusions!
 

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squirrels said:
If your wife cheats on you, you picked the wrong wife for the wrong reasons.
Chances are pretty good that if you get married, your wife WILL cheat on you, so i would beg to differ.

ANY woman is capable of cheating, it just takes the right set of circumstances. Even the "right" wife might stray.
 

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Colossus said:
she up and left him (and our family) with no reason or explaination other than she 'wasnt happy'. Completely unexpected. Broke up our family. My father was devastated for a long time, and it really changed my perspective of marriage.
Perhaps we should amend the marriage vows to suit modern women -

" ...till death us do part - unless my dopamine levels drop and the reality of being an adult woman is all too much ..I am entitled to feel like a horny teenager in love forever."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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STR8UP said:
ANY woman is capable of cheating, it just takes the right set of circumstances. Even the "right" wife might stray.
Your logic defies your defintions....
If she cheats, then she is hardly the "right" wife.

Ok, I can hear LMS warming up here. What is a cheating wife LMS ?
 
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A wife is submissive to her husband and not to another man! Only marry a virgin - a woman who is loyal to her principles before marriage WILL be loyal to her husband in marriage!!!
 

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jophil28 said:
Your logic defies your defintions....
If she cheats, then she is hardly the "right" wife.

Ok, I can hear LMS warming up here. What is a cheating wife LMS ?
My point exactly.

To say that you have the ability to choose the RIGHT wife would imply that one exisits.

THERE IS NO "RIGHT" WIFE!

The difference between a woman who cheats and one who does not has as much to do with CIRCUMSTANCE than it does with her INTEGRITY.

Not all women WILL cheat, but all women are CAPABLE of cheating.

If one of us had a crystal ball we could consult maybe we could determine which "quality" woman is "right", but until then......
 

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Lets put this another way.

Lets say you go to the super bowl and before the game you proclaim "The Dallas Cowboys are the best team in the world!"

But you don't know the outcome of the game. So how can make such a proclamation?

It's the same with women.

You can make a GUESS, and you can form an opinion, but when all is said and done until the final play, you have no idea how it's gonna go down.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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STR8UP said:
Lets put this another way.

Lets say you go to the super bowl and before the game you proclaim "The Dallas Cowboys are the best team in the world!"

But you don't know the outcome of the game. So how can make such a proclamation?

It's the same with women.

You can make a GUESS, and you can form an opinion, but when all is said and done until the final play, you have no idea how it's gonna go down.
I agree, but I do think that we (here on the mature man forum) are way ahead of the game.

I think for those of us that do end up getting married, the chances of our wives cheating would be very slim actually, IMO.

I also think we have less of a chance of finding someone to marry because we are far less likely to end up stumbling into a marriage without thinking, or more realizing, what we are doing. We are more in tune with what is really going on, therefore far better at protecting ourselves from women who may not make a quality wife, or life-partner.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
I agree, but I do think that we (here on the mature man forum) are way ahead of the game.

I think for those of us that do end up getting married, the chances of our wives cheating would be very slim actually, IMO.

I also think we have less of a chance of finding someone to marry because we are far less likely to end up stumbling into a marriage without thinking, or more realizing, what we are doing. We are more in tune with what is really going on, therefore far better at protecting ourselves from women who may not make a quality wife, or life-partner.
Very, VERY good points.

The "Curse of the DJ" rears its ugly head!

In the end you never know if your woman will cheat, but a DJ can do a LOT to prevent that from happening.

I look at guys like Rollo who have good wives with whom they have a great relationship, and I see a big part of the reason being that they know what to do. They know how to be a man and how to take the reigns and be PROACTIVE in making a relationship work. Leave it up to the woman and get a big pile of sh!t.

So yea, we are a lot LESS likely to get married, but a lot MORE likely to have a happy, healthy relationship.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
A wife is submissive to her husband and not to another man! Only marry a virgin - a woman who is loyal to her principles before marriage WILL be loyal to her husband in marriage!!!
LMS- I think that is the most profound thing you have ever said here. No one has ever had the balls to say that before.


:rockon:
 

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Chrispy said:
Powerful. The guy knows what he wants and does not want.
True, but I wonder if he actually expected to get a response for a date, he came off very bitter. My gut tells me he was just making a declaration because it seems a bit naive to think that he'd find a woman who'd appreciate his belief on Craigslist, especially in Denver. I guess anything is possible, but what's the probability?
 

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STR8UP said:
Very, VERY good points.

They know how to be a man and how to take the reigns and be PROACTIVE in making a relationship work. Leave it up to the woman and get a big pile of sh!t.
Ha ha !! Hey STR8UP, this is priceless.. Somedays you really hit the 'ten ring' over and over without trying..
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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