"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Templeton

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Yeah seems a little odd to me too Alpha. Good insight as always, you should post here more often mate. Regards.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Thanks for the complement Templeton.

Originally posted by OddTech
I am what people called "skinny fat." That means I am skinny but I still have some love handles. I was like wise mage and I wanted to lose the love handles.
I can relate to that. When I was skinny with not that much fat around my waist (67kg at 9% bf) my obliques poked out because my my back wasn't that wide proportionatly. (Actually in hind sight they weren't that bad compared to now but I wasn't happy with them at the time).

Now I've got a good V shape but I've still got love handles simply because I'm carrying a 30lb tyre of fat around my waist (I'm now 114kg at about 25% bf). If I lost the 30lb tyre (which I am slowly working on - lost about 15lb in the last 6 month) I think I would finally have my love handle problem beat.

I think the solution is both low body fat and wide back V shape. Just one or the other doesn't work (I know from experience I've tried both but not together). I don't think wise_mage is going to get any where with the V shape thing unless he increases his back size; I think it very unlikely it is too big if he's at 61kg.

If wise mage looked like my pic below then I think he'd have a point (I've certainly got a problem with love handles but in my case it is just 30lb of fat that needs to be lost by plain old self discipline).

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/donjuan2862/lst2?.tok=bcLN0FSBUct8LBUG&.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph

edited to change link - if it doesn't work don't worry your not missing much just a picture of a fat guys back with a great V shape (down to my waist) but which is then completely ruined by massive love handles bulging out.
 
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