Louis Theroux: Inside the Manosphere

[user252009]

Don't see a thread on this yet, so starting one. Seen the trailer, thoughts?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

That looks like a pretty tilted documentary.

 

[Gamisch]

Link?

Other than that especially overhere we know much much more about the sphere than Lious. We've seen the built up ,the growth and the fall...


We've been saying since forever that to ANY outsider the manosphere is a cultist, strange and somewhat sinister place to be in. Eventually most of the more prominent people in the space went fully mask off as being actual Nazi lovers, what shocked the "normies" even more ( because there were suspicions that manosphere and women's ate went hand in hand right?)

I've said many times before that 90% of the manosphere in the west would LOVE some sharia type law that completely controls women, while simultaneously 90% of the sphere hates bearded men...can't have it both ways!

 

[BaronOfHair]

Yet another documentary, filmed by someone who's already made up their mind about the topic at hand, and organizes the facts in such a way that said facts appear to fit their case... Next, we'll be hearing that federal law enforcement hasn't been especially candid with us, when attempting to justify The Patriot Act and The Drug War

 

[user252009]

Link?

Other than that especially overhere we know much much more about the sphere than Lious. We've seen the built up ,the growth and the fall...


We've been saying since forever that to ANY outsider the manosphere is a cultist, strange and somewhat sinister place to be in. Eventually most of the more prominent people in the space went fully mask off as being actual Nazi lovers, what shocked the "normies" even more ( because there were suspicions that manosphere and women's ate went hand in hand right?)

I've said many times before that 90% of the manosphere in the west would LOVE some sharia type law that completely controls women, while simultaneously 90% of the sphere hates bearded men...can't have it both ways!

Takes 3 seconds to search on YT:

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Takes 3 seconds to search on YT:

Took even less time for the OP to post the link.

 

[Gamisch]

Takes 3 seconds to search on YT:

You try to make a thread to get a message out don't you? Besides that, what's the point of the thread actually? It's like saying did you hear the latest Harry Styles without posting a snippet of the song. ( nice song by the way!!!)

You ask for thoughts but yet you are too lazy to put in your own....................

I tried to save your thread because literally nobody engaged with it. As was told to the former comic by the former activist during their most critical meeting ;

" did you even say thank you "?

 

[user252009]

You try to make a thread to get a message out don't you? Besides that, what's the point of the thread actually? It's like saying did you hear the latest Harry Styles without posting a snippet of the song. ( nice song by the way!!!)

You ask for thoughts but yet you are too lazy to put in your own....................

I tried to save your thread because literally nobody engaged with it. As was told to the former comic by the former activist during their most critical meeting ;

" did you even say thank you "?

The point of the thread is to have it serve as a discussion point of what is obviously a topic closely related to the forum. Nice to see that after many months of being away and coming back and making a post, the community is still as hostile and toxic as ever, so instead of providing own's opinion of the trailer/film, rather attacking the person that opened the thread. Nice job keeping the "toxic" out of the stereotype of "toxic mens' communities"!

 

[Gamisch]

The point of the thread is to have it serve as a discussion point of what is obviously a topic closely related to the forum. Nice to see that after many months of being away and coming back and making a post, the community is still as hostile and toxic as ever, so instead of providing own's opinion of the trailer/film, rather attacking the person that opened the thread. Nice job keeping the "toxic" out of the stereotype of "toxic mens' communities"!

Yo dude.

What about sharing YOUR thoughts in YOUR own damn thread?

Stop whining. It's the weekend no need for silly back and forths. Just enjoy your day or shut up.

 

[user252009]

Sure. I believe it will lean more in the direction of portraying it as toxic as can be seen from the trailer already. Hopefully though, it can portray it objectively, but I think a lot of the messaging that comes from influencers like F&F is understood as toxic because they use a very specific language to get their views across. Now, if they would interview someone like Rollo, that would be quite a different ballgame, but I'm sure they won't, because it's easier to show the "crazy" influencers rather to argue with someone like Rollo where you know you can't win because he actually speaks with statistical and historical knowledge that cannot be denied.

Good enough for my thoughts?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Now, if they would interview someone like Rollo, that would be quite a different ballgame, but I'm sure they won't, because it's easier to show the "crazy" influencers rather to argue with someone like Rollo where you know you can't win because he actually speaks with statistical and historical knowledge that cannot be denied.

Better yet: Let's hear from more dissidents

 

[Travel memoir21]

The Manosphere section of life is like going to the groceries, there’s good parts and there’s absolutely junk that’s bad for you. Take the good minus the bad and take everything with a grain of salt would be my advise.

 

[user252009]

The Manosphere section of life is like going to the groceries, there’s good parts and there’s absolutely junk that’s bad for you. Take the good minus the bad and take everything with a grain of salt would be my advise.

This, 100%

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be cherry picked. If you google "red pill", only 1 hit shows a BALANCED look at it, a few matrix references, a business, 2 hits for 'enhancement' pills, and more than 90% of the hits are filled with accusations and vilifying hit pieces. I admittedly haven't searched "manosphere" but I'd wager it's similar.

I did a piece on this not long ago. You never hear about the good that has come of any of these virtual male spaces. I'm honestly surprised that the article in UKstyle (sp?) didn't make mention of 'top g' as that name gets thrown into the mix almost by virtue of necessity for anyone wanting to paint the sphere in a bad light. No mention of any content creators or spaces that genuinely do the best they can to improve life for people. The exception would be Myron Gaines. He's mentioned in the report. I can definitely understand the criticism leveled at him and Fresh. While I understand it, I still believe that they genuinely want to help people.

Just reiterating the point, I'm predicting that this will be a hitpiece and declaration of moral superiority and S.I.G.N. language (RIP Kevin Samuels.)

 

[user252009]

Just finished watching it, as expected, a lot of it is focused on "it's not what you say but how you say it" but also super focused on highly controversial figures, so, not surprised

 

[BaronOfHair]

Just finished watching it, as expected, a lot of it is focused on "it's not what you say but how you say it"....

Yeah, even The Woke-adjacent are pressed on the subject, they'll more or less admit: "Men and women are different, and we haven't done ourselves any favors, by trying to turn the entire Anglosphere into a prolonged episode of The View... We're desperate to be SEEN as allies of the so-called marginalized though, so we're going to publicly feign horror over this stuff

 

[Gamisch]

Yeah, even The Woke-adjacent are pressed on the subject, they'll more or less admit: "Men and women are different, and we haven't done ourselves any favors, by trying to turn the entire Anglosphere into a prolonged episode of The View... We're desperate to be SEEN as allies of the so-called marginalized though, so we're going to publicly feign horror over this stuff

I'm just responding to the title: is the sphere dangerous.

Imo unfortunately yes it is. In a perfect world the sphere should be a guide for men. How do we move in a ever changing world? Where technology can present new challenges out of nowhere. And where women are able to live in their " happy bubble " thus they won't ever have to be aware of the complexities that men deal with?

But instead of being inspirational the manosphere got hijacked by political extreme views. Quite the route ,from brothers like ams recording videos with their iPhone 4 to Where we are today.

It takes an extremely level headed man to both be ...active in this space while simultaneously being able to see through the bs. Most prominent figures in the redpill gradually shifted towards extreme politics, using the dangling sausage on a stick method where they promise a better future based on nothingness.

I'm kinda embarrassed that I actually believed Andrew tate was" kinda cool" for a while. The manosphere right now is akin to a religious cult ,one that makes men more depressed than anything else.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Gamisch "I'm kinda embarrassed that I actually believed Andrew tate was" kinda cool" for a while"

He was often extremely entertaining. Amen, in regards to the rest of your points... The following words https://quotecatalog.com/quote/kurt-sutter-the-bond-that-h-Z7EmAm7 are just applicable to The Manosphere. Any pretenses of "creating brotherhood" and "promoting self-development" that once existed ain't even in the rear view anymore

 

[Solomon]

Regarding the documentary Wish they focus more on the audience, the root of the problem, instead of the charlatan grifters with mummy and daddy issues

It confirmed something after having hung out with some those guys, in the past why I would never hang out with those guys again
They are just awkward and everything is about one upping each other they also will undermine you if it means more success not just with money but also women

 

[eli77]

My thoughts exactly